Penn State AD charged with perjury -- UPDATE 2 Sandusky Arrested Again

Boom_70 · Nov 9, 2011

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Tarheel316 said:

McQueary deserves no sympathy. He saw that scumbag Sandusky sodomizing a little boy!!! He should have called 911. This is so beyond sick.
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Agreed, McQueary was a QB trained in making quick decisions. The call came and he threw an interception.
If he dialed 911 Paterno would have been off the hook unless they knew something in 1999.

The comparisions to the the way the Catholic Church handled things are apt.

Chef2 · Nov 9, 2011

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"Sexual abuse?"

"What sexual abuse?"

YankeeFan · Nov 9, 2011

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Smash Williams said:

I can't bring myself to read the GJ indictment, but I figure Sandusky didn't see him there if this continued for several years afterwards, which leads me to believe it wasn't like he was 3-4 feet away, likely at the door to a room or looking around a corner
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I've never been in a locker room where you could look into the showers from more than 3-4 feet away.

They're designed to give you a little privacy. If he saw what was happening, he was close.

YankeeFan · Nov 9, 2011

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imjustagirl said:

I don't watch college football. I don't care about college football. I haven't heard JoePa speak in probably 10-15 years.

My god. The decline of that man's communication/whatever is wrenching.

Now, for my money? My opinion? My blind guess? McQueary told him EXACTLY what he saw, and Paterno slept on it, and then went to his bosses and said "oh, uhhhhh, this kid said he saw Jerry in the shower with uhhhhhh a boy or whatever you want to say and *trailing off* uhhhhh there was some sort of fondling uhhhhhh or something of a sexual nature."

Seeing that video there? There's NO WAY that man could communicate clearly even if he wanted to when something that difficult needs to be said.
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It was 9.5 years ago.

Surely 75-year-old Joe was more capable of communicating what happened than 84-year-old Joe.

Lugnuts · Nov 9, 2011

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Smash Williams said:

I can't bring myself to read the GJ indictment, but I figure Sandusky didn't see him there if this continued for several years afterwards, which leads me to believe it wasn't like he was 3-4 feet away, likely at the door to a room or looking around a corner), and I sadly find myself empathizing with his inability to do anything in that moment or even that night. And to a teeny tiny bit of credit, he did bring it to Paterno in a relatively timely fashion, though my sympathy starts to wane when he apparently doesn't follow up on any legal action.
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You are making WAY too many assumptions! After McQueary told Paterno, Sandusky was barred from bringing kids to the football building.

Think about this, folks.

Somebody had to TELL Sandusky he couldn't bring kids around anymore, and don't you think he wondered why? Don't you think he KNEW why? He knew he was caught. AND YET... HE CONTINUED to abuse kids. This is Enabling Felonies 101.

Regarding McQueary, as the mother of one of the victims put it: A grown man saw a boy being sodimized, and he called his daddy.

McQueary is chickenshit, and he directly contributed to the abuse of new victims. That's on him for the rest of his life.

Chef2 · Nov 9, 2011

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Lugnuts said:

Smash Williams said:

I can't bring myself to read the GJ indictment, but I figure Sandusky didn't see him there if this continued for several years afterwards, which leads me to believe it wasn't like he was 3-4 feet away, likely at the door to a room or looking around a corner), and I sadly find myself empathizing with his inability to do anything in that moment or even that night. And to a teeny tiny bit of credit, he did bring it to Paterno in a relatively timely fashion, though my sympathy starts to wane when he apparently doesn't follow up on any legal action.
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McQueary is chickenshit, and he directly contributed to the abuse of new victims. That's on him for the rest of his life.
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Roll Credits.

MileHigh · Nov 9, 2011

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Lugnuts said:

Smash Williams said:

I can't bring myself to read the GJ indictment, but I figure Sandusky didn't see him there if this continued for several years afterwards, which leads me to believe it wasn't like he was 3-4 feet away, likely at the door to a room or looking around a corner), and I sadly find myself empathizing with his inability to do anything in that moment or even that night. And to a teeny tiny bit of credit, he did bring it to Paterno in a relatively timely fashion, though my sympathy starts to wane when he apparently doesn't follow up on any legal action.
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You are making WAY too many assumptions! After McQueary told Paterno, Sandusky was barred from bringing kids to the football building.

Think about this, folks.

Somebody had to TELL Sandusky he couldn't bring kids around anymore, and don't you think he wondered why? Don't you think he KNEW why? He knew he was caught. AND YET... HE CONTINUED to abuse kids. This is Enabling Felonies 101.

Regarding McQueary, as the mother of one of the victims put it: A grown man saw a boy being sodimized, and he called his daddy.

McQueary is chickenshit, and he directly contributed to the abuse of new victims. That's on him for the rest of his life.
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This sums it all up.

Flying Headbutt · Nov 9, 2011

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So why does Joe still have a job?

Gutless.

Dick Whitman · Nov 9, 2011

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Flying Headbutt said:

So why does Joe still have a job?

Gutless.
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Come on, now.

They're forming a committee.

Azrael · Nov 9, 2011

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Lugnuts said:

McQueary is chickenshit, and he directly contributed to the abuse of new victims. That's on him for the rest of his life.
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He was being a team player.

YankeeFan · Nov 9, 2011

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I'm just not very interested in reading about how tough this has been for McQueary:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-08/penn-state-scandal-mike-mcquery/51129742/1

I'm sure it is tough, but he's not the victim.

They've never even identified the boy who McQueary saw being abused by Sandusky. That kid likely never got any help.

He's the victim. All of those kids are victims. Save your tears for them.

Stoney · Nov 9, 2011

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

imjustagirl said:

I don't watch college football. I don't care about college football. I haven't heard JoePa speak in probably 10-15 years.

My god. The decline of that man's communication/whatever is wrenching.

Now, for my money? My opinion? My blind guess? McQueary told him EXACTLY what he saw, and Paterno slept on it, and then went to his bosses and said "oh, uhhhhh, this kid said he saw Jerry in the shower with uhhhhhh a boy or whatever you want to say and *trailing off* uhhhhh there was some sort of fondling uhhhhhh or something of a sexual nature."

Seeing that video there? There's NO WAY that man could communicate clearly even if he wanted to when something that difficult needs to be said.
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Interesting take, and I think it makes sense based on what I've seen of Paterno's press conferences in recent years. Although this happened in 2002, I'm sure Paterno's faculties and communication skills were in better shape back then.

A solid theory to consider, though. Everyone here's been assuming some nefarious ego-driven coverup by him, but perhaps, due to age decline and life in the bubble, this had more to do with a doddering old man simply being incapable of fully grasping and handling something of this magnitude.

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