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Penultimate

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by dooley_womack1, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Sacre bleu! Ergo, don't do it.
     
  2. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    And what the hell is a penult? The new Kia model?
     
  3. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    A famous journalist (I don't remember who it was) told a story about his father reading one of his stories when he was a 15-year-old sportswriter for his local rag. He said his father had an eighth grade education.

    Anyway, the kid used "alacrity" in a story and his father looked the word up. Then, the father said, "I see by the dictionary that alacrity means quick. Next time, say what you mean." According to the journalist, it took his professor an hour and a half to make the same point.

    Don't try to wow people with an erudite vocabularity. If you're passionate about your subject, that will come through in your writing.
     
  4. MartinEnigmatica

    MartinEnigmatica Active Member

    I'll defend penultimate. Yeah, I've never used it in a story, but to treat it like a cancer-stricken word is just silly. Look the damn thing up. People, especially newspapers, use the language like humans generally use their brains - that is to say, only a fraction.
    I'll repeat that I've never used it, but if I was trying to add gravity to a series of events, I might throw it in. Penultimate comes across a bit more suspenseful than next-to-last. Or, 'after this, there's only one more.'
    With all that said, it does fall into the sect of English that gets used when you haven't written a lot and you haven't done enough reporting - basically trying to put lace curtains over a broken window.
     
  5. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

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  6. Cansportschick

    Cansportschick Active Member

    That is what I thought it was at first. Like Papermate....too funny.
     
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  7. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Nah, that'd be the ultimate pen. And the details of a story should provide the gravity, not some shopworn word.
     
  8. MartinEnigmatica

    MartinEnigmatica Active Member

    Ok, fine. But then no newspaper can ever call a celebration (Bi)centennial, a plane amphibious, a player adept, or anything else that has a pretty direct connection - or sounds close - to Latin.
    Yeah, paint the picture with details, but I just don't get the decision to effectively strike it from the dictionary. It's not like the word has to be put in italics.
    And lest I start an argument, I agree that when casually thrown around, penultimate is a stupid word to use. Sticks out like a sore thumb. But I wouldn't totally rule out using it.
     
  9. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    So I'm guessing nobody here likes "fortnight," either?
     
  10. Mayfly

    Mayfly Active Member

    Man, there goes my lede for the soccer game last night.
     
  11. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    I can't think of any use I'd need it for, but for certain things, I think penultimate could work. Fuck, let the reader do some work. One word in 1800 stories isn't going to make them give up on newspapering.
     
  12. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    I love fortnight and penultimate.

    I think we do the reader a disservice if we think they are all drooling imbeciles.
     
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