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Penultimate

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by dooley_womack1, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    Absolutes are never a good idea, dools.
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    And my crush on IJAG grows mythical in proportion.
     
  3. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    And that dovetails into a point I made earlier about people using high-dollar terms incorrectly. The times I've seen gravitas used in all but the best stories/editorials, it's just one more synonym of "balls". As in: Joey Paulson showed gravitas by running a quarterback sneak on 4th-and-5 in the second quarter.

    Used that way, it certainly makes this quote ...

    ... more interesting.
     
  4. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Dare I say it, Meat, but it might be ironic.
     
  5. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Including that one.

    And is antepenultimate the next-to-last war before the Civil War?

    Ironic? Hoops needs to come and make a ruling.
     
  6. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    To be fair, most high school football gamers smell like balls anyway, so the effect is lost.
     
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Well, they surely don't smell like scotch and rich, polished wood, that's for sure.
     
  8. MartinEnigmatica

    MartinEnigmatica Active Member

    Nay, the next-to-next-to-last
     
  9. friend of the friendless

    friend of the friendless Active Member

    Sirs, Madames,

    Okay, did a check. Since the fall of 1997, over what is surely up and around 1.5-million to 2-million words (over seven years of of newspapering, rest in magazines and four books) I've used penultimate twice and not since 2001. Odd though: The dreaded word made it into my copy three times in a six-month stretch prior to that. A deadline habit? A matter for investigation. I remember my creative-writing instructor at Carleton saying it was one of his favorite words.

    YHS, etc
     
  10. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Is the world of journalism just trying to piss me off?



    :D
     
  11. Khartoum

    Khartoum Active Member

    It's threads like this that make me hate this business sometimes. Here you have a veteran journalist, respected on this board and therefore probably respected in his newsroom, staunchly defending the dumbing down of a story. And many are jumping to his side.

    It's penultimate, for chrissake. Not some esoteric word pulled from deep out of the recesses of the dictionary. If a reader doesn't know what penultimate means, the hell with him. And you know what? Every now and then it's OK to pull a word deep out of the recesses of the dictionary. I'm so sick of this write-to-a-first-grade-level bullshit. That's what the business is doing now, and look how well it's doing. Maybe it's time we stop dumbing it down and start smarting it up. Maybe we should -- gasp! -- challenge a reader every now and then. God forbid.

    Like the Jed Bartlett tagline quote says, "It's not our job to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's our job to raise it."

    Have a little self-respect. Have a little respect for the readers. Trust me, the monosyllabic slack-jawed sect isn't buying the goddamned paper, no matter how much you try to cater it to them. Let them have talk radio. I'll take the literate sect. They're the ones the high-end advertisers want, anyway.

    Jesus. Penultimate! PENULTIMATE! You've got to be fucking kidding me, Dools.
     
  12. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Worst. Haiku. Ever.
     
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