Pete Rose in the HOF? Yes or no?

Pete the Player wasn't banned, Pete the manager was. Pete the player goes in and his plaque should indicate that as a manager he was permanatly banned from baseball.

 

As a player, yes. He should already be.

And it would be better with a full explantion of what he did and his banishment included with the plaque.

 

Yes.

 

Yup. It's what he did as a player that got him in.

 

There can be no seperation here between his career as a player and a manager.

He accepted a lifetime ban. He lied about betting on games, the cardinal sin, then admitted it to sell a book.

You can bring up Ty Cobb and all those who had dubious personalities who are in the hall, but to use them as an excuse to let in Rose doesn't work, because they were just asses. Rose played with the integrity of the game.

 

Yes, of course. Can't have a Hall of Fame without Pete Rose.

Put an asterisk-type note on the plaque and don't let him ever have a job in baseball again. Take away his livelihood.

But don't ignore his accomplishments and leave that 4,256-foot blind spot in the gallery at Cooperstown. That's just dumb.

 

Put him in, but tell the whole story and keep him from ever doing anything that puts him in a position to alter the outcome of a baseball game ever again.

 

I disagree. He played with the integrity AFTER he left as a player. If someone said he bet as a player, I wouldn't be surprised, but until that day comes, he did the job on the field.

 

And the HOF is about your career in baseball, not what you did solely as a player. Everything gets taken into account.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he's the all-time leader in hits, won three championships, three batting titles, two Gold Gloves, a MVP award, the Rookie of the Year award, and went to the All-Star game 17 times at 5 different positions.

To not include a player of that calibar with those accomplishments in the Hall of Fame takes away from the sport's credibility if anything.

 

In.