Pete Rose in the HOF? Yes or no?

Captain, I think you'll get a lot more support for Shoeless Joe than for Pete around here.

 

Pete Rose was the inspiration for the flo-bee

 

Rose should be in, as should Jackson and, oh, what the hell, Buck Weaver.

And Bert Fucking Blyleven, dammit!

 

Absolutely.

You can't have a Hall of Fame without Joe Jackson. Period.

Put a note on his plaque, an asterisk or whatever, that he was banned for life for accepting money to throw a World Series. But hell, he's already included in the museum. So is Rose, for that matter.

 

Shoeless Joe absolutely belongs in the HOF, too. I consider Cap Anson the moral threshold.

 

Wait a minute. Is that yes, to boots' question "Any questions?" Or yess to Peter Edward Rose in the HOF?


As for my own answer -- who's more famous? I see no sense in keeping him out. If need be, make him eligible for induction after he dies. It's a lifetime ban, afterall, not a forever ban.

 

Jackson's been dead since 1951. Not sure whose life they're banning anymore, but evidently they are.

 

THE QUESTION IS MOOT. Voters are not able to vote for him, so why ask? If you want to ask it in a different way, like should MLB and the HOF change their rules and allow him on the ballot, would you vote for him, then that question becomes valid.

And the theory many of you have written is that the HOF can't ignore what the man accomplished doesn't hold water because the HOF does have his accomplishments in the museum. But not the man.

You can argue this all day (and all year, if you wish) but nothing will or can be changed until and unless the powers that be allow him to be voted on.

 

I'd be willing to let Pete Rose's warts in, but keep the rest of him outside.

 

Very good point, casty.

With one distinction: Even if they made Pete eligible, writers couldn't vote for him regardless. It would have to be the veterans' committee.

He gets 15 years after his retirement/waiting period to be voted in by the BBWAA; those 15 years have now passed.

 

You're right, buck, I was commenting on what might have happened if we had the opportunity. Unfortunately for Rose and his fans (if there are any), from what I'm told the people already in the Hall will never vote for him. He'd have had a better chance with the writers.

 

I was about to ask that question casty, but you beat me to it. And I think with the public proclamations of quite a few of them saying no, you're dead on (as usual).