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Photogs refuse to sign consent form at prep event; papers don't shoot event

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Johnny Dangerously, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    The papers went without the photographs once access was limited.
    You think if they were available online, the papers would PAY for them?
    You're missing the root of the argument.
     
  2. Bob Slydell

    Bob Slydell Active Member

    Telling a newspaper what it can do with photographs that are not printed on paper violates its right to determine content, she said.
    “We’re the people who ought to be able to determine what photographs are used and where they are used,” Spurlock said. “That’s our choice and our responsibility.”

    Those are the best arguments we have. Just because a paper doesn't thave room for 20 photographs, they shouldn't be able to sell them anyway. In this age of new media and online papers, who is determine what the paper can and can't use. Certainly not a state HS association who culd careless aboutr media in the first place.
     
  3. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    Well typed.
     
  4. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    You shouldn't be torn on this. Another example of outsiders trying to limit media. And this is high schools, no less.

    Fuck 'em.
     
  5. Diego Marquez

    Diego Marquez Member

    I see one of the newspapers ran a story on this. I hope all of them did. And the AP picked it up. And the papers which signed the form ran the AP story.
    By the way, I'm betting Ricky Bobby allowed his picture to be taken for the story. From the stands, of course.

    Ed's note: The idiot is Tommy Henry, not Ricky Bobby.
     
  6. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Photo galleries can significantly enhance the coverage of an event because they provide something far beyond what's available in the printed product (so do additional sidebars written exclusively for the web edition, which we also do on occasion, or additional notes in blogs).

    That's serving the best interest of our readers.
     
  7. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    I see some good points. But the righteous indignation can go. Remove that from your arguments; it's counter-productive.

    We've tried that tack before, and we just wind up looking like pompous asses.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Disagree shot. On the web sites, photos get hits. Papers want the hits.

    I doubt they sell many of them, so that's silly. Most papers charge too damn much.
     
  9. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    We have that situation in my area. It began last fall.

    I initially refused to sign the form, and had a big discussion with the director of our state's athletic association. The thrust of my argument is that since they use public facilities funded by taxpayer money, they have no right to deny us access (unless games are at private facilities, such as those held at local private colleges or the minor league baseball park nearby).

    Unfortunately, two things undercut my stance that we would not sign it: The major metro paper in the area didn't oppose it because, frankly, they didn't have to. They simply went to the events without signing the form and the director let them in, no questions asked. And second, the other smaller papers all signed it.

    My boss told me she would bring it up to the publisher and lawyers were supposed to get involved, however, I never heard back from them.

    So without anyone to back me up, I was forced to decide between not covering the events at all (we weren't allowed into the event with a pass and we couldn't get a pass without signing the form), or giving in.

    I decided it would be a disaster for our paper not to cover the postseason, so I relented and signed the form. I'm still not particularly happy about it.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Next time, pern, if they pull that on you, cross out that paragraph and sign it.
     
  11. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That's actually what I did. The director then called me to tell me they refused to give us credentials unless I sign it in its entirety.

    When I did eventually sign it, I left it with the proviso that we were signing the agreement reluctantly for the stated resasons and have the right to pull out of the agreement at any time. I was hoping that soon enough our publisher was going to get involved. He never did.
     
  12. occasionally

    occasionally Member

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