Possible GOP vice presidents

I hate Christians!!!

Happy? I said it just for you.

Of course you are way off base. I may be a recovering Catholic, but I do believe in the Judeo-Christian values I grew up on. So saying it is just doing so to please you and has nothing at all to do with what I truly believe.

As far as Huckabee goes, like I've said numerous times on here. I have no problem with the guy preaching his religion to the men, women and children at his church, but from the oval office to everyone nationwide - sorry not about to appreciate that. I have two rules when voting. No voting for socialists and no voting for ministers, those actually ordained or the ones pretending to be ordained.

 

RSC --
So the Reverend Ike is out for you?

 

The only guy who's actually run as a "real" conservative and won (and before you ask . . . Fredo sure as hell didn't . . .) had Jimmy Carter to beat.

Talk about an 18-inch layup.

 

Well, I wouldn't vote for Benny Hinn.

However, what has Huckabee actually expressed other than Judeo-Christian values? What's the problem with one separating values from leadership? The day we tell our leaders it can is the day decay begins to rot this country at its soul. Oh, wait, that's already started.

 

Everyone younger in the GOP is fucking men in bathroom stalls...

 

The Huck. Yesterday.

“I hope you know Jesus Christ personally…because the level to which he rules you and governs you, you need less and less of man’s law to tell you how to live and that is what our Founding Fathers understood and we must understand.”

First of all, the "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ is not a Judeo-Christian value. It is a doctrinal concept of a specific subset of American Protestantism -- namely premillenarian fundamentalism. It's no more strictly "Judeo-Christian" than the transubstantiation of the Eucharist is. But that last part is the truly hilarious part. The Founders believed no such thing. In fact, they created the Constitution specifically to exclude Jesus -- or Moses, or Muhammad, or Vishnu -- from the nation's law.

 

What's wrong with that? I thought you endorsed homosexuality in your list of values, Pastor. Along with the "My greattimes500 granddad is an ape" argument.

Now you're criticizing the former behavior. Can't have it both ways.

What's wrong with that? Along with the "My greattimes500 granddad is an ape" argument,
I thought you endorsed homosexuality in your list of values, Pastor.
Now you're ridiculing that behavior. Can't have it both ways.

 

Did he say that he was going to jail those who weren't, or assess them higher taxes? No.

The Bible, whether you are a liberal Christian or a conservative evangelical, has one consistent application when trying to discover in it the "will of God" as it applies to humanity. That all are healed? No. That all become millionaires? No. What he said about hoping all can have a relationship with Christ? Yes.

Sorry, but I'm not going to fault him for professing an element of his faith. It's no different than me saying "I wish you all good health." He spoke that, scripturally, out of an agape love. Whether it is appreciated or not, well, if you embrace what happened with Christ, he too loved others that didn't care.

Should Huckabee have said, "I hope some of you go to hell if that is what you wish?" I guess if he wanted to be politically correct, fine. But I for one, don't appreciate all the wordspeak that politicall correctness has dumped on us. When it applies to race as an example, certainly it's needed but hell, it shouldn't be needed - our hearts and minds should have already been in the right place.

Another thing: "less of man's law" is different than "none of man's law." Much of man's law is found in religion and vice versa. I don't think Huckabee is going to make everyone become a Southern Baptist or ask women to cover their heads. But when it comes to being good stewards of what we have, of saving instead of becoming a slave to the lender (yes, that's Biblical and voila, what kind of situation do we see out there today that tells us that might be a problem we're facing?), even restrictions on diet have been proven to be healthy, I can't see the quarrel there or why people would run from this as something scary.

Oh, and there's also that respector of life issue. Man, that's persecuting stuff Fenian. Controversial, maybe, but how dare we tell people murder at birth is OK but murder at 30, 50, 70, et al is not. But hey, for baby steps, let's start with borrower-lender and diet issues.

 

Well, you have to draw the line somewhere.
And in this country, NONE of man's law is found in god's law. Man's law is created by man for man.

 

Depends on your point of view. Laws regarding murder, theft and adultery can be found in man's law and in god's law.

 

But the laws under which you are caught, tried , and punished, is man's laws.

 

You know - I bet cutting the hand off a thief might keep them from stealing a little better than a two-month tour of one's former home behind bars. That is presumptuous on my part because I'm implying that most have already been in for that crime and the rehab worked so well the first time.

If you look at the Old Testament, the sacrifices offered for some penalties hit one in the pocket book - you gave up part of your meat budget. Similar, but certainly not identical to some of our civil laws today that assess fines.