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Pre-Super Tuesday Presidential poll

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Feb 26, 2020.

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Who is your pick for the 2020 Presidential election?

  1. Joe Biden

    29 vote(s)
    33.0%
  2. Michael Bloomberg

    6 vote(s)
    6.8%
  3. Pete Buttigieg

    7 vote(s)
    8.0%
  4. Amy Klobuchar

    3 vote(s)
    3.4%
  5. Bernie Sanders

    8 vote(s)
    9.1%
  6. Tom Steyer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Donald Trump

    7 vote(s)
    8.0%
  8. Elizabeth Warren

    23 vote(s)
    26.1%
  9. Other

    5 vote(s)
    5.7%
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  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    And as of now, Pete has 27 and Klobuchar 7.
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Why, in general, do black americans like Bernie, and don't like Pete?
     
  3. HappyCurmudgeon

    HappyCurmudgeon Well-Known Member

    I don't think they "like" Bernie in mass or anything. He got obliterated in South Carolina in back-to-back primaries and carried roughly the same percentage of black voters, maybe up a couple percentage points and their approval rating of him is far below the other voting blocs of the party. Younger black voters are higher, but he's higher with younger voters across the board so it's probably more of an age thing. The black residents of South Bend weren't too crazy about Pete and they had four years to digest him. That wasn't going to speak well of him for the rest of the country.
     
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  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    A lot of it is cultural. Between the black church, the Catholic Church, Islam and Asian culture - non-white voters weren't brought up with the idea that being gay was okay, let alone something to be celebrated to a much larger degree than white folks. Part of it is that their religious identity is stronger since their church was one of the few places they weren't marginalized, so their religious identity has a stronger hold on them than white folks.
     
  5. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Or maybe a lot of them are just bigoted assholes, too.
     
  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I've posted this before, but a lot of people "credit" non-white voters supporting Obamaa in California for passing Prop. 8 the gay marriage ban passed in the 2008 election. It even passed in LA County, which has a 50 pct Democratic voter edge.
     
  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Some white voters weren't brought up with the idea that being black was okay.

    That an acceptable excuse?
     
  8. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Biden’s campaign strategy has been terrible and I think it’ll show tomorrow. If he doesn’t do fairly well in California and Texas, he’s toast.

    He hasn’t held an event in California in more than a month and is finally doing two events today in Texas.

    In terms of fundraising, Biden raised $18 million in February, versus the $46.5 million Sanders raised.

    How is Biden going to beat Sanders with that effort, and how would he even think about beating Trump?
     
  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Of course not. But it explains why they are the way they are. Ethnic minorities don't view sexual minorites as the same. Gay people can "fake" being straight - they have a choice of being identified as an "other" - ethnic minorities don't.
     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    With all the comings and goings in the race over the last couple of days - I realize there is probably no chance of it happening, but having Sanders suspend his campaign and go all in with Warren would be interesting. It would be a total power play - but he has to be able to read the tea leaves. If he can't get more than 50 percent in a primary - he's not going to be the nominee and probably won't even have the most delegates by Milwaukee.
     
  11. SoloFlyer

    SoloFlyer Well-Known Member

    Black voters aren't over the moon about Bernie, but I think a lot were turned off about Pete because of his issues with the black population in South Bend.

    While Buttigieg gets some credit for South Bend's revitalization, it hasn't translated to the African American population there, where over 30 percent are still in poverty. Couple that with his decision to demote the city's first black police chief and what was perceived as an ineffectual response when a white police officer shot a black man, and it created a clear disconnect between them and him.
     
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  12. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Sanders step aside for her? Haha haha.
     
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