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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    True enough, and I acknowledge the point. Trump raised it to performance art and is their current idol, though. I can provide a list of any number of Democrats who clung to denials, though, starting with Gov. Cuomo's current position and including "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky".

    "Deny, deny, deny" isn't a position that was patented by either party.
     
  2. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    That’s BS. These people have been delusional since hanging chads, if not since “the scariest phrase in the English language is ‘I’m from the government and I am here to help.’”
    Republicans have been actively trying to block all social progress for decades.
    Prove me wrong!
     
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  3. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    She’ll win in a landslide. I get that you and your fellow normal folks deserve better, but overall Arkansas is getting the leader it deserves by overwhelmingly choosing her.
    Same goes for my family and friends across the river.
     
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  4. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

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  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    There are denials (and non-denial denials) and there is refusal to admit fallibility.

    Years ago when Robert McNamara wrote his memoirs, he went on a mea culpa book tour that included a stop near me at Beloit College. He equivocated somewhat, blaming Westmoreland and other generals for pushing escalation, but he did get up in front of a group of people and said, effectively, "I fucked up." He must have done that dozens of times as he traveled the country. A documentary, "The Fog of War," followed a few years later, ironically just after the US had injected itself into Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The effect of McNamara's misjudgments could hardly be erased by a mere apology. But as a country we have a hard time admitting our mistakes. History is depicted largely as a seamless progression toward Nirvana, a story line largely pushed by conservative interests. When was the last time a liberal/leftist asked rhetorically, "But what is right with America?"
     
  6. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Disagree. See Nootch's response.

    "That's what you get for living in (insert southern state here)" is a favorite mantra of the progressives who live elsewhere and get absolutely giddy at the thought of kicking people in the teeth when whatever they are doing to implement change isn't enough.

    You and I probably know a few people in common who seem to have lost their minds and moral compasses over the past five years. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they weren't good people and it was all an act because of the laminate on my lanyard.

    I'd prefer to think they were the people I thought they were at the time.
     
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  7. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    I’d prefer to think they were the people I thought they were at the time.[/QUOTE]

    It’s pretty to think so, isn’t it?
     
  8. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Thread with video worth watching

     
  9. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    I think you’re wrong by a degree or two. These were people part of a movement that did untold damage, but only recently did they realize that the time where they’d be the majority was coming to a close.

    Obama jolted them. A black man not only was asking for voting rights. He was President. They were no longer the benevolent giver of incremental rights where the status quo was largely kept in place.

    People are questioning the corporate capitalist system they assumed was beyond reproach.

    They are being asked to make radical change in consumption and habits because the world is on fire.

    These are the entrenched whose identity is based on their unvarying values realizing their position is suddenly on shaky ground.

    So they’re acting like cornered animals. The Bush era was a base celebrating the triumph of its empire and acted consistent in its hubris. The Trump base is a group of people apt to take any position, shift wildly and reject something as cut and dry as a vaccine that protects against a horrible, breathless death.

    The anti-vaccination, nationalist, openly supremacist nature of this movement is different. Maybe you’d argue that the cloaked nature of the Reagan and Bush people was scarier. Maybe you’d argue Trump was the inevitable end point to that movement.

    All I know is I had family members who didn’t question vaccines, didn’t call for immigrant children to be deported and didn’t even vote before Trump.

    This is different.
     
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  10. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    There are 'rules' she says

     
  11. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    If she’d made the Tigger laugh and hopped up and down as that lady exited, I’d have Venmo’d that homeowner money.

    “Oooooohhhoooooooohhooooo!”
     
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  12. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I don't care.

    Let them bring their guns and their weapons to downtown Portland. Fight it by boycotting doing any business in Downtown Portland until they are gone. The free market will make the police remove these idiots.

    Confronting them lets them play with their toys. Just let them play with themselves.
     
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