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Once you peel back the curtains on the bolded, you're kind of proving the other folks' point, no? Why have certain lower-paying "pink-collar" jobs been the ones that women have "typically pursued?" Because they just didn't want to be doctors, lawyers, CEOs, etc? And this "time off to take care for children" trope has been the source of discrimination in pay, promotion and hiring for time immemorial. Unless you're suggesting women universally WANTED to be relegated to the "mommy track" until a few man-hating bra-burning feminists who were too ugly to get a man themselves started putting ideas in their head... Couldn't have been the societal expectations to hew to traditional gender roles and the consequences of not doing so or anything like that, right?

Almost echoes all the stuff you hear in archival Jim Crow era footage of sheriffs, mayors, town councilmen, election registrars and other WCC denizens insistimg "We never had no trouble down here -- everything was just fine and everybody was so happy until them Northern agitators started pokin' their noses down here and riling up our law-abidin' n***ers who know their place and like it there!"

May not be intentional, but it sure can be read that way.

Edit: My second paragraph is admittedly unfair because you haven't suggested that at all. But you DID suggest that the historic relegation of women to low-status, low-pay, low-reward work -- if they were even working at all and not taking what you referenced as "time off" -- was pretty much a conscious lifestyle choice borne of free will. Which necessitates thinking that someone must have put some ideas in their heads because they were previously so happy living under a patriarchy. Which is also, coincidentally, how Southern segregationists explained why Blacks started pushing for civil rights - it was because Northern Jew agitators got to them, not because they were actually unhappy living under a system of brutal apartheid.

 

So so shocking:

 

This been posted here yet?

Loons, both:

 

I liked this post because I want it to be the case.

However...

 

TV-

You are a bright fellow. What do you get out of playing this game?

The bad guys have never won in the history of this country. Never ever ever.

 

Right. It's not like those who can afford better tax attorneys or make certain kinds of investments pay a different percentage of their income than, say, a wage earner at a union job, or say, Waffle House. But that's not inequality, because they should've pulled their asses up out of poverty by their bootstraps.

 

No, I don't think that's the progressive left's goal at the moment on the issue of supreme court nominees or frankly most issues.

The goal, IMO, is precisely "you don't like it? Tough shit." Or, as one AOC flak said on the matter of climate change: "Choo choo motherfucker." It's a power game.

Consider, for a minute, that your take was deemed cynical. It's an absolute fact Joe Biden made a campaign promise solely to win the South Carolina primary and kickstart his candidacy; there's even an excellent NBC News piece about him debating whether to do it and some in his camp telling him not to. It was a total calculation. That's cynical. Pointing it out is just being observant.

 

I was editing while you were posting. See my explanation above. But no matter how you cut it, you're still suggesting that the mass relegation of women to lower-paying, lower-status jobs for generations was because they wanted it that way, and if they really wanted to be lawyers, doctors and CEOs, they were free to do so. Because of course those who pursued those opportunities weren't discriminated against at all. And I didn't say the way women are treated was like Jim Crow. I was saying your post hoc rationalizations that the way they were treated was a figment of their imaginations and they were all happy the way it was sounds a lot like the rationalizations segregationists made at the time for why Blacks were starting to challenge the system because after all, they were so content before.