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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member


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    DanielSimpsonDay, Nov 7, 2022
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  2. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I can’t believe there is still someone in the year of our lord 2022 arguing for a DLC triangulation strategy.
     
    Regan MacNeil, Nov 7, 2022
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  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

     
    Starman, Nov 7, 2022
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  4. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    And even if Republicans do underperform current polling, the party's default setting is now to blame it on voter fraud (evidence not required) rather than any honest assessment of where they may have erred. So even if they are disappointed this week, there's very little chance of any meaningful self-examination.
     
    Big Circus, Nov 7, 2022
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  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    If the Democrats came out with something in the vein of the Clinton 1994 Crime Bill? I think it'd be very successful.
     
    Alma, Nov 7, 2022
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Successful in what? Causing mass incarceration? New draconian laws? Making the justice system into an even bigger disparity between haves and have nots who can or can't afford to buy their way out? Feeding a corrupt game of crony capitalism with politicians selling a monopoly for campaign contributions, which requires prisoners as an input, and which the politicians themselves supply with their legislation?
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 7, 2022
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  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    "We give this to all the greatest Twitter trolls. Be proud. Elon has one too."

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    garrow, Nov 7, 2022
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  8. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Wasn't there a whole to-do about Obama bowing to the Saudi king or crown prince? Trump's lowering his head while receiving a medal.
     
    wicked, Nov 7, 2022
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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Do you think that's why the Crime Bill was crafted?

    The bill reduced crime pretty quickly. By quite a bit, IMO, though there are debates about whether some demographic change related to longevity magically kicked in right around 1995 really accounted for it.

    Democrats could examine their approach to immigration, too.
     
    Alma, Nov 7, 2022
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  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Then Democrats will have to overhaul the voting/representational system to fit their political preferences. Because the Big Tent party is increasingly becoming the GOP, to my shock. Democrats have eschewed the Big Tent for a Big List. A real Democrat is for 12, 15, 18 different progressive ideas and, if you're not on board with those, what kind of Democrat are you?
     
    Alma, Nov 7, 2022
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  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Hell, Democrats could at least PRETEND to care about immigration like the GOP pretends to care about babies.
     
    BTExpress, Nov 7, 2022
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yes that is what that bill did. They created a prison industry (with certain connected people getting a government monopoly) with a lot of money changing hands. But it's not just corrupt that way, because those businesses require warm bodies to make money, and the government is supplying those people, too.

    In any case, the biggest impact on crime in this country comes from the economic climate at any given time. During periods that a lot of people on the bottom of the spectrum are struggling economically, crime ticks up.

    But really, much of "crime" as people use the word, is whatever you decide to criminalize and how zealous you are about going out and finding "criminals." If you take a victimless act -- say drug use -- and make it criminal, you can fill up prisons with addicts (as we have in this country).

    That bill in 1994 amounted to a Federal funding incentive (that we couldn't afford anyhow) going to localities with the jobs and bureacracies it gave those localities being explicitly tied to them finding "criminals." It's no surprise that they found criminals. Same as lots of people being paid for something go out and create whatever it is they have to to keep the checks coming in.
     
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    The Big Ragu, Nov 7, 2022
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