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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    It'll be like the opening scene of S1E1 of Better Call Saul where the prosecutor looks at Jimmy and rolls out the TV without speaking a word.
     
  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Believe it when I see it, but I think Smith has Rudy and Meadows hook, line and sinker -- and Trump knows it.
     
  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


    I think he does, too. I'm not sure that Trump is smart enough to take a deal. He's always been able to deny or settle before. I hope he's stupid enough to keep fighting. I suspect that Smith is going to open another case in New Jersey once he's ready. There are already rumblings that he's doing so in Georgia. Every new state that they bring a case is another set of lawyers that have to get paid millions of dollars, another source of evidence in a larger conspiracy case. I really think they already have enough for a guilty verdict and Smith won't stop until the entire case is nailed down tight.

    The looming question is what sort of punishment DoJ is willing to ask for.
     
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  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, he's not taking any settlement. That's admitting defeat. He's banking on a rogue juror despite what seems to be a large amount of evidence against him that has been released. The majority of the evidence hasn't been leaked.
     
  6. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Theoretically Smith could open a case in all 7 states that provided fake electors. But then again you get into a "dog in a rabbit patch" situation where he's chasing everything that moves and isn't settling down and getting to the business of prosecuting and trying a case.

    I think the interview of Raffensperger was done in Atlanta only as a convenience to the subject and not necessarily a sign that the feds are moving in on Willis' turf. It was only Smith's staff with no grand jury mentioned.
     
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  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Smith's prosecution has been as watertight as a duck's asshole ever since it started. They have deliberately released what they were required to, when they had to. Trump releases all sorts of stuff if he figures he can lie and spin it in his faver.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I've posted it before, but I really think that Smith already has the elector case dead to rights. He has grand jury testimony from two Nevada electors, one of whom was the state GOP chairman. The faux electors met, voted, and issued a document saying that Nevada's electoral votes went to Trump. They sent that to the National Archives officially. Even before he testified to Smith's GJ the chairman had discussed in interviews about talking to Trump about doing the fake elector scheme. That one state puts the entire case on a platter. Everything added to it is gravy.
     
  9. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. They have run through so many scenarios behind the scenes. Asked all of the questions. And asked them again. Went through everything to make it as airtight as possible. Despite the bitching on this site and elsewhere about the slowness of things.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The entire process has been slow. Smith has been on the case for what, eight months now, and has several federal cases either in progress or nearly ready. I strongly suspect that he's going to get another indictment before the Georgia state indictment goes public, maybe two.

    DoJ has been slow, but Smith has not wasted any time at all.
     
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  11. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    The Georgia state case would be a mere fart in a hurricane — except for the fact that Willis has hinted at indictments for a number of clingers-on involved, in particular the G Sisters (Rudy G and Lady G) as well as Meadows, Perry, Cleta Mitchell and several others.
     
  12. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

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