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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. matt_garth

    matt_garth Well-Known Member

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  2. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    Hahaha. He did the same thing you do, posting the same thing over and over. You're well-known for that. It's irritating and there are a ton of people here who will concur.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry you don't realize that repetition is a legitimate rhetorical technique. Sometimes people like you need to hear things more than once before it sinks in.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    This was from 2018. ... The Martin Act was getting attention then due to what Eliot Spitzer had done with it to extort money from businesses, and then in 2018 when Eric Schniederman was using it's broad, unjust powers to try to go after ExxonMobile in a climate change suit of all things.

    Depoliticize the Martin Act

    The subhead was: In the wrong attorney general's hands, the New York statute is a weapon of mass destruction against business

    That kind of authoritarian power is so antithetical to due process and an America that PROTECTS people's rights -- like when it is you, not Donald Trump. It's dangerous. In the case of Trump's case. ... the only victim the suit even alluded to (it was a fraud case that didn't need to go to the trouble of identifying victims) a) said it would do business with Trump again, and b) was so defrauded. ... that it made money from doing business with him.

    Yet a judge was able to just issue a summary judgment. "Yeah, I think he is a fraudster, so let's just move onto punishment." Honestly, that is how North Korea does "due process." It's not something we should be happy about, even if it is Donald Trump. And that punishment could be anything. ... dissolve the business, exact huge fines. You have businesses in other states, where the blue sky laws actually have a high standard to prove fraud. ... that can't be punished in such a draconian way.

    I hope none of you ever face a proceeding that skewed against you.

    This is something, some guy wrote last year when the initial summary judgment came down, and he gets it right. People don't want to think about the process. But the process it's important. Because these are barn doors that once you open it. ... it isn't limited to the "obvious" bad guys for whom you don't care if they get a fair process.

    Red Jahncke (opinion): 'Dangerous' law used against Trump

    One last link from 2018 too, when Schneiderman was abusing the law in that ExxonMobile case. The WSJ called the Martin Act the Worst Law in America.

    The Worst Law in America



    But I get it. 10,000 words. And there are people who will stick their fingers in your ears, not care to even listen to what I was saying: "He broke the law! STFU." Despite having no idea what the "law" was and how it actually went down.

    You don't give a fuck because it's Donald Trump. But it's why America consistently reaps what it sows. The "ends justify the means" attitude because you are so partisan that things like individual rights don't matter. But when the law is getting misused to get someone you're more sympathetic to. ... you endorsed that kind of thing. And we're all worse for it. There are a gazillion legitimate ways to "get" Donald Trump -- he's immoral, will break the law, does commit fraud like it is a bodily function. But it's just not so easy to do it in a fair way, because it requires due process and errs in favor of his rights, and gives him the ability to fight back in the way America is supposed to allow people to.
     
  5. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    People are saying that Trump has dementia. Not me, but people are talking about his health. Big, burly guys are concerned. They say “Sir, what would we do without you.”
     
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  6. Woody Long

    Woody Long Well-Known Member

    To channel the great Artie Lange:

    WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH WE'RE BEING HELD TO ACCOUNT WAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

    HOW ARE WE GOING TO AFFORD OUR SECOND YACHTS IF THE GOVERNMENT HOLDS US TO ACCOUNT FOR OUR MISDEEDS WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

    If I want bad ultra-right wing fasco-capitalist opinions, I don't need to read the WSJ's Fascist Opinions page. I'll just call my law school buddies who still live down south.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Um, no. The schools offering the QB money are obeying the rules that have been (reluctantly) agreed upon by the other schools and conferences.

    Your idea works when giving money to athletes was banned. A school paying an athlete was harming the other schools who were obeying the rules.
     
  8. UNCGrad

    UNCGrad Well-Known Member

    Every goddam time I see Trump's mugshot and "Never Surrender!" emblazoned next to it - this usually happens on the flags flying on pickup trucks in NC - I about lose my fucking mind.

    How do you think he got the mugshot? While none of them are serious people, some of them are absolute goddam idiots and it pains me.

    I need help.
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Navalny is what retribution looks like.

     
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  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I will never understand how Putin became so palatable to so many in the Republican party. John Wayne would weep.
     
  11. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    hahaha he's still on this today.
     
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  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Putin's going to be killed soon because of Navalny.
     
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