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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    I love Nick Offerman now more than ever, and that was a lot. I like to think that's his wife Megan Mullally singing backup. She has a beautiful voice, though you'd never know it based on her character Karen in Will and Grace.

     
  2. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    If they try anything close to another Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol … God I don’t like the ways I find myself wanting to complete that thought. But if it should come to pass, I hope we know enough to treat it as an act of war this time and respond accordingly.
     
  3. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    Another day, another former staffer shares another jaw-dropping story
     
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  4. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    One other thought on Jan. 6 and now.

    The best comparison to trump’s candidacy is if Jefferson Davis had run and got the nomination in 1868. It’s beyond belief. But the firehose of bullshit has blinded people. Some of them all-too willingly. Combine that with power hungry, anti-American trumplican party, and here we are.

    He must be defeated. I’ve got no hope for all of his elected enablers. Most will never be held responsible. But trump has to lose, stand trial and be convicted.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Hmm.

    How about:

    "Americans focus on their wants 24/7. Republicans in some of the states specified here seem to vote against their most basic self-interest."
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    "Self interest" = what the next guy thinks you should be interested in.

    This isn't about individual choices people make, even though the piece kind of glosses over it coming down to the differences in the individual choices people have made in different regions. Instead, the piece just decides that it's about "policy." No discussion of the negative economic consequences "policy" has largely created because it is never paid for and never administered well or efficiently and it leaves behind long-term consequences that go beyond life expectancy rates.

    The piece points out that the Southeast is called the stroke belt because the high stroke rates are mirrored by rates of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity and other risk factors. Those are risk factors that are more influenced by individual behaviors in humans than anything. But that isn't the focus, because it's. ... a "policy" failure. Which I guess means, people"vote against their most basic self interest."

    Policy or lack of it isn't what causes people to smoke at higher rates in some places, or eat unhealthy, processed foods or have much higher percentages of obesity. You can eat well and exercise and stay fit and not smoke without "policy" saving you from yourself. You can never vote for anyone -- whether it's a candidate someone else has decided is in your best interest or not -- and do those things.

    But there is no conclusion that people in those areas simply have settled on valuing things differently than people in "healthier" areas. Instead, the piece almost entirely quotes people who fall into the same tired groupthink of it being "policy" failure. And when you put together a group of people who only have hammers. ... everything looks like a nail.

    I can throw a gazillion obvious questions right back at them. ... Let's start with this. There was no "policy" in those places 75 years ago that institutionalized people in Medicai and other expensive and unpaid for "policy" quagmires. Yet, way fewer people were obese in those places, diabetes prevalence was much less and stroke prevalence was markedly lower. How did people figure it out then without "policyTM" saving them from themselves?
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    How do we square that Americans love freedom but also despise minding their own fucking business?
     
  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    That America has done a better job than most at preserving freedom.

    There isn’t a person alive truly interested in minding his or her own business. But not every nation is free.
     
  11. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Oh.

    Former President Donald Trump’s economic proposals would increase federal deficits by $5.8 trillion over the next decade, almost five times more than those of Vice President Kamala Harris, which would add $1.2 trillion, according to a new pair of studies from the nonpartisan Penn Wharton Budget Model.

    The Trump report found that his plan to permanently extend the 2017 tax cuts would add over $4 trillion to deficits over the next 10 years. His proposal to eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits comes with a $1.2 trillion price tag, while his pledge to further reduce corporate taxes would add nearly $6 billion.

    The Harris analysis showed that her plan to expand the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit and other tax credits would raise deficits by $2.1 trillion in the coming 10 years. And her proposal to create a $25,000 subsidy for all qualifying first-time homebuyers would add $140 billion over a decade.

    But the Harris report found that raising the corporate tax rate to 28% from its current level of 21%, as the vice president has floated, could partially offset the costs of her spending by $1.1 trillion.

    Along with corporate tax hikes, Harris has said she supports the $5 trillion worth of revenue raisers contained in President Joe Biden’s budget proposal for the 2025 fiscal year.

    The lion’s share of Harris’ revenue streams come with a major asterisk, however: They require congressional approval.​

    Trump budget would spike deficits by nearly 5 times Harris proposal, says Penn Wharton
     
  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Very shallow Google search.

    "The 10 states that have not expanded Medicaid – Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Wisconsin, and Wyoming – have disenrolled more children and youth than the 40 states and the District of Columbia that have expanded Medicaid combined."

    BTW,, WTF Wisconsin?


    "Nearly 1 of every 5 uninsured working-age adults across the 10 states that have not expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act are, according to a new analysis, stuck in a health care limbo known as a “coverage gap.” That means they earn too much money to receive Medicaid but not enough to qualify for financial help to purchase their own plan on the marketplace.

    In Alabama and Mississippi, more than a quarter of uninsured working-age adults are left with no affordable pathways to health coverage, according to the analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a progressive think tank that researches federal and state budget policies. Overall, 1.6 million adults between the ages of 19 and 64 face the situation in the non-expansion states.

    “They are all people with incomes below the federal poverty level, and yet they have no financial assistance or coverage,” said Gideon Lukens, senior fellow and director of research and data analysis with the organization’s health policy team."
     
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