President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

I genuinely believe that Trump came into this very unsophisticated on racially tinged issues. For instance, he didn't think through something like his proposed Muslim ban.

I'm not gravely concerned.

 

No. it's a wall. Is he lying now or was he lying then

 

He wasn't lying. It was the starting point of a negotiation.

 

Anyone know what sites he's already removed from the list?

*Website Removed* (temporarily)

 

of course it was. It's all negotiable. Until The Russians invade thru Mexico. Mexico hates us now. So why wouldn't they aline with ISIS and Russia

 

I am trying really hard to be open to information from sources I would normally reject, following the echo chambered debacle of the 2016 election. I hope you appreciate the sheer force of will it took to read a Slate Star Codex article with an open mind, because every time I have come across his articles on the internet he was several times more high on his own farts than I could hope to be in my deepest po-mo fever dreams.

But I liked that article and hope he is right.

 

A. Yes, that's true

2. This is a great example of the left taking Trump "literally, but not seriously" while his supporters took him "seriously, but not literally".

The media and the left will scream, "he's backing away from his campaign promise." And, they will think they've made some point.

But, Trump's supporters have always know the issue was border security. So, if it's fence in some areas, a wall in others, and stepped up technology and enforcement in some areas.

What matters is accomplishing the goals, and not how it is done.

 

Good interview in Washington Post today with a fake news creator (stupid phone refuses to do links, something broken) of stories far more egregious than work of sites Ragu defends (there's a difference, a big one, between opinions which are not grounded in facts, we all have those and just plain fake facts). He both profits from and is frightened by the fact there's one born every minute.

 

Yep. That's part of the narrative. Fake news. FBI. Anything but blaming the candidate and the (lack of a) message.

There's one fake news story that the main stream media is in love with this morning. I wonder why they're taking this one story seriously?

 

Words don't matter.

 

It isn't just opponents who take politicians at their word. Supporters do too except for the all-ins like YF (and others here of all persuasions, you wouldn't post on this thread if you weren't committed). The voters who gave Trump his victories in swing states included many folks who took him on spec, as it were. They may see words vs. deeds differently.