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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Millions will be learning this lesson in a few weeks.
     
  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    It is odd that the "and Mexico will pay for it" is never a part of the "promise" Trump is intent on keeping.
     
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  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

     
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  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    "I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall."




    Sources:
    Donald Trump’s presidential announcement speech
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

  6. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Honesty, fidelity, dignity, charity, humility and justice are not republican conservative values.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    A core principle of the Tea Party is (was): "OMFG THERES A MOOSLIM NAEGRO PRESIDENT!! WE DON'T WANT TO PAY NO TAXES FOR NUTHIN'!!!"

    And basically, that's it.
     
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  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Mending Wall
    By Robert Frost



    Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
    That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
    And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
    And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
    The work of hunters is another thing:
    I have come after them and made repair
    Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
    But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
    To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
    No one has seen them made or heard them made,
    But at spring mending-time we find them there.
    I let my neighbour know beyond the hill;
    And on a day we meet to walk the line
    And set the wall between us once again.
    We keep the wall between us as we go.
    To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
    And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
    We have to use a spell to make them balance:
    "Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
    We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
    Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
    One on a side. It comes to little more:
    There where it is we do not need the wall:
    He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
    My apple trees will never get across
    And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
    He only says, "Good fences make good neighbours."
    Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
    If I could put a notion in his head:
    "Why do they make good neighbours? Isn't it
    Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
    Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
    What I was walling in or walling out,
    And to whom I was like to give offence.
    Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
    That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,
    But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
    He said it for himself. I see him there
    Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
    In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
    He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
    Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
    He will not go behind his father's saying,
    And he likes having thought of it so well
    He says again, "Good fences make good neighbours."
     
  10. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I look forward to when the next Democratic president uses Trump’s rationale as precedent, declares shootings with guns as a national emergency and announces that the military will go door to door and confiscate every single firearm.
     
  12. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    There are disadvantages to having a barrier that stretches the entire border between the U. S. and Mexico.

    It would disrupt the migration and other movement of wildlife.

    It could alter drainage and the flow of streams and rivers.

    People in more isolated regions of the border move across it, sometimes not aware exactly where the actual border is because it isn’t well defined and the resources that they need to live and make a living are on both sides of the line.

    Some agricultural businesses, such as cattle ranchers, move animals across the border during different stages of the animals’ growth. Cow/calf herds might be in Mexico, fattening in feedyards in the U.S. and the butchering and beef sales happens in either country, sometimes depending on where the cut or what might be considered a byproduct in one or the other country gets the best price.

    A less porous border with fewer ports of entry also inhibits mutual aid between emergency agencies should the need arise.

    Those are just a few non emotional reasons for not building an arbitrary impervious barrier.

    The symbolism of such a wall also goes beyond mere emotion and might scar relations with other nations beyond easy repair.
     
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