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Agree wholeheartedly.

We need a common-sense immigration policy that treats everybody equally and doesn't catch legal citizens in its net and allows anybody who wants to live here, be productive, and follow our laws a path to do so.

Is that too much to ask?

 

Yes. This is an issue that, despite the rhetoric, both parties treat the issue very similarly.

They might have different motivations -- though at some point, many Republicans had convinced themselves that hard working, pro-life, Catholic, Hispanic immigrants would be solid republican voters -- but they end up in the same place.

It's also a big reason for the split in the Republican Party between the base, and its leadership. It's part of what propelled Trump to victory.

 

So I'm right!

 

In public policy circles, common-sense means "proposals I agree with."

 

You could be ...

 

I'll take the B and just move on if it's all the same to you.

 

They have completely different motivations although, yes, neither have cared.

 

Sure. My point was that it would likely cost more to have a program to catch freeloading immigrants than you'd save. I also wouldn't trust Bannon/Trump to implement a rational plan.

 

I completely understand your impulse to apply stricter regulation in the quest for economic nirvana and safer suburbs, but luckily in immigration we have a decent case study in Georgia.

The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

 

Tsk, tsk, tsk ... gettin' a hard-on because you get to point out the weak parts of an argument I haven't made and the flaws in a position I don't hold ... then again, I guess at our age we shouldn't look askance at any wood that sprouts.

 

+1

 

Those are perfectly reasonable objections to real quality-of-life issues faced by real immigrants. Even though those conditions are often preferable to the ones they left.

They're also completely irrelevant to the intended results of your president's actions and proposals.

He doesn't want to improve their quality of life. He wants them out. Period.