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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    If his last two pressers are any indication, DJIA will take a 5,000 point shit while he's on camera.
     
  2. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    CT NY NJ announce restrictions for gyms, theaters, restaurants, casinos, etc. Except for AC casinos, which remain open. LOL
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Equity futures contracts expire quarterly. So there is a contract that will expire in March (end of this week). One that will expire in June. One in September. One in December. And then contracts for those months more than a year out, etc.

    When you hear a report about where the futures are trading, they are talking about the most "forward" contract, where the process of settlement hasn't already begun. The March futures for this year are already in that process (they expire on Friday), so anyone wanting to trade a forward contract has already (or should have) rolled their position into the June contract. So in this case, you are talking about a futures contract that settles on the third Friday in June.

    Futures try to discount the things you are talking about, and they are generally remarkably good at cutting through information and handicapping when disruptions are just short term vs. when they may have more lasting impact, but even crowds can't predict the future. With something like this, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

    Also, I know what people are being fed is that US equities are selling off because of the virus, but it's way more complicated than that. The virus was a catalyst, but fundamentally US equity markets were already way out of whack -- over the last few years, earnings went nowhere in real terms, but prices shot through the roof. That isn't normal. So yes, the virus is going to have a huge impact on earnings (and the stock market when left alone, the way it hasn't been, is an earnings discounting mechanism), but we have gone a very long time now in which the stock market wasn't being allowed to serve that function as a discounting mechanism. If we get back to an unmanipulated environment, things need to reprice permanently, to put a value on stock prices. If that is allowed to happen finally, the need for that happen was due to all the liquidity that was injected over a long period of time that distorted prices so much. It's not the virus that caused that, it was the manipulation that started well before the virus.
     
  4. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

  5. DanOregon

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  6. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    This thing is going to be an absolute economic catastrophe. I don't there's any way of avoiding that at this point.
     
  7. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    To paraphrase Don Zaluchi from the meeting of the Five Families — the people who go to Atlantic City are animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.
     
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  8. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    I was there last weekend, if you were a virus preying on seniors it's like Disneyland.
     
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  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Bottom line is that Anybody-but-Trump has a massive built in voter base.
     
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  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    You want to know why governors are putting in 8 pm to 5 am curfews?

     
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  11. Jesus_Muscatel

    Jesus_Muscatel Well-Known Member

    that thought has crossed my mind in the last 3-4 days
     
  12. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Trump always runs late, so they may not get around to announcing anything until after the close.
     
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