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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member


     
  2. daemon

    daemon Well-Known Member

    Or maybe they are both reading from the same talking points distributed by whoever they answer to.
     
  3. daemon

    daemon Well-Known Member

    None of us want to live in the economy that's coming. That's doubly true for the one that will exist if this shutdown carries on longer than 15 days. The best trick Trump ever pulled was convincing people that everything he says is wrong. Granted, a lot of what he says is wrong, and most of the rest is intellectually dishonest at best. But at some point we're going to have to come to grips with the fact that a 1 percent death rate is better for society than a 30 percent unemployment rate.
     
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  4. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Comparing that to 30 percent unemployment is ridiculous.

    "Labor force participation rate" measures those in the work force against those simply ELIGIBLE to be in the work force.
    Among those ELIGIBLE: Students (as young as 16 years old). I don't consider a 16-year-old high school sophomore concentrating on his studies and not looking for work "unemployed."

    The countries with the highest labor force participation rates? Qatar, Madagascar, Zimbabwe, Rwanda, and Tanzania. Take that for what it's worth.
     
  5. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    I still think no schools rest of year, we are fully out of our caves on June 1st.
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It is so easy to be a chooser of the slain on the Internet. And if the death rate from this virus was only one percent, we'd be goddamn lucky.
     
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  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    PS: If we let the virus have its way, using a very conservative estimate of a 1-2 percent fatality rate, that's like a million deaths, which will grind the country to a halt anyway. Mass burials kind of take the appetite away for eating out or holding meetings.
     
  8. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Maybe we can finally get those long discussed death panels !!!
     
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    S&P 500 negative at the open. Even QE Infinity can't reflate the bubble now. Don't fight the Fed. ... To them having zero control now. Unfortunately, they are just going to punish anyone who didn't mire themselves in debt, to spread the misery to everyone, before they stop and let the necessary deleveraging happen.
     
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  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You're gonna get your 1+ percent whether you like it or not. You've made your choice of the slain just the same as others.

    30 percent unemployment = massive lack of health insurance, massive spike in (often violent) crime.

    The "is the cure worse than the disease?" question isn't some Fox News thingy today. It has been legitimately asked and written about for a while now.
     
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  11. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    That is precisely the dilemma we face. In order to flatten the curve to the point where hospitals can handle it, not only do we crater the economy, but also we prolong the pandemic by many, many months. On the other hand, just doing nothing and letting the virus burn like wildfire would result in millions more deaths than otherwise.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Millions more deaths FROM THE PANDEMIC.***

    Not necessarily millions more deaths THAN OTHERWISE.


    *** And even that's a maybe. We're three months in and are still 984,000 deaths short of ONE million.
     
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