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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  3. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproj...timony-credibility-memory-20180928-story.html

    Maybe experts will talk about Reade like this. Maybe they won't.
     
  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  6. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  7. melock

    melock Well-Known Member

  8. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    OK, from the Muh-Muh-My Corona thread, several posters are saying this:

    Not true ... people who vote for the Green Party, Libertarian Party, etc., are NOT happy with the two-party system and the electoral college, which is what gave us such an incompetent and corrupt president.

    For those of us who live in roughly 40 of the 50 states, you can already give the electoral votes to Trump or Biden. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will change those results under the current system.

    I've voted in every presidential election since 1992, and have yet to vote for a Democrat or Republican presidential candidate. Maybe that's throwing away my vote in your opinion, but in the long haul, the positions of the third party candidates and the (hopeful) demise of a two-party system is worth it.
     
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  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I respect your consistency, but you are dead wrong. If you want even your single vote (there's no such thing, the means by which a single person can multiply their influence within the system are many and varied) to mean jack shit, your only practical course of action is to get involved with one of the two parties and try to sway it in your direction. Shit, even Bernie knows that.
     
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  10. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    One more take on this: Yes, of course it would be better for the U.S. if Trump is removed from office. He should have been convicted and removed from office earlier this year. I hope he loses his bid for re-election. But in the deep-red state where I live (Idaho), my vote is meaningless whether I cast it for Biden or the Green Party. That's true for the majority of Americans, and that needs to change.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    No vote is meaningless. Nor is any individual. You could start showing up to party committee meetings, either party. You could work for/donate to a local race where any amount of time and money has disproportionate influence. In short, involvement. I mean, you root for sports teams, dontcha? Do you think that commitment is meaningless just because your team usually loses, as most do?
     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    The idiot and the superego

     
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