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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    There were so many in the US Army and Navy who were his peers if not equals. Gen. Steedman of Illinois who, ordered to charge into what sure looked like certain death at Chickamauga, stopped only to tell a staff officer to make sure his name was spelled correctly in the obituaries, then lead the charge on a horse. Horse shot out from under him he grabbed a flag and led it on foot. Charge won, he lived (a real miracle). Farragut at Mobile and New Orleans. Thomas at Chickamauga. Grant from start to finish. There were plenty of brave and talented generals on the Confederate side, but they were limited by their weird society's worldview. Guerrilla war, which would have worked , or at least worked better (see, Nathan Bedford Forrest) was considered ungentlemanly, indeed, dishonorable.
     
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  2. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    As a former sport guy, whenever newsroom folks whine about election night, on any given Friday night, I laugh in their general direction. Their mothers were hamsters, and their fathers smelled of elderberries.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    To add to my above post, just as Hirohito accepting defeat was his greatest service to Japan, Lee surrendering at Appomattox was his greatest service to this country.
     
  4. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Stephen Miller when he recovers from the rona.

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  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    For you who remember Watergate. Is Claudia Conway Martha Mitchell?
     
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    His fucking up Gettysburg was rather valuable, too ... had he not done so, the war would have dragged on far longer than it did.
     
  7. garrow

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  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    The honor he paid the, if we’re being honest, traitors during the surrender procession was maybe the classiest thing I’ve ever encountered.
     
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  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    He’d never survive cancel culture!
     
  10. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I think, at 192 years young, we’d give him a pass.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It was, remarkably, the basic posture of the entire Union army, from Grant and Sherman (!) on down. War's over, let's go home and forget it. Only time it was in danger was when the news of Lincoln's assassination reached Sherman. He showed it to Confederate Joe Johnston, who damn near fainted, and said, if your army does ANYTHING to celebrate this, I cannot control my troops. They didn't, and Johnston surrendered in due course. PS: When Sherman died in the 1880s, Johnston was a pallbearer in a huge NYC funeral conducted in pouring rain. Said Sherman would do the same if roles reversed. Johnston died shortly thereafter of pneumonia.
     
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    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

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