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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Um, this goes back to Reid removing the filibuster for a host of nominees in 2013. Were you outraged back then? Given your centrist bent, I'm sure you were.
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I thoroughly blame the Republicans for being shitheels. I just think this particular move is the logical result of their platform. This is exactly what people voted for, and elections have consequences.
     
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  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That could reasonably traced back to the Republican's obstructionist approach to the Obama administration, but their gutless handling of Garland's nomination was a particularly ugly step that can't be reasonably blamed on Reid. Not that you are interested in being reasonable.
     
  4. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    You should read things. Speaking of which, the majority of people who traffic in such things are pretty excited about the filibuster going away. #vestigial
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    The Garland move was unconscionable. Especially since they used him as an example of an acceptable candidate until he was the nominee
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Actually, the filibuster going away is good. The majority should vote as it wishes and own it. That's what pissed people off about the Garland thing. The Republicans had the votes to vote him down, but were too chickenshit to do it in public. Gutless pukes the lot of them.
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Not MUST. But that doesn't make us the lunatics.

    There is NOTHING even remotely foreseeable that would change the equation from Trump being the national disgrace.
     
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  8. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    If the Republicans wanted to vote him down, fine. Disagreeable, but fair. But they forfeited the moral high ground when they sat on the nomination. Long as they know what's coming if the Dems ever control the Senate with a GOP president.
     
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  9. Riptide

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  10. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Filibusters are dumb and majority rules is a reasonable way to decide things in an elected body.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Agree completely. The sorry truth is that the filibuster survives as a way of letting Senators be in the majority without accountability. "Sure I voted for X (risky vote), but the evil opposition filibustered it."
     
  12. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

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    Egypt's president is a bloodthirsty dictator.
    Trump thinks he's done a "fantastic job.”


    Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, the brutal military dictator who overthrew his country’s democratically elected president in a 2013 coup, killed more than 800 protesters in a single day, and has imprisoned tens of thousands of dissidents since he took power, was President Donald Trump’s honored guest at the White House on Monday.

    This is Sisi’s first official state visit to Washington as Egypt’s president. That’s because although the US has long viewed Egypt as a vital strategic ally in the Middle East, President Obama steadfastly refused to meet with the Egyptian strongman over concerns about serious human rights abuses carried out by Sisi’s security forces — including torture, mass detention, and forced disappearances of journalists, aid workers, activists, students, and Islamists. In one particularly gruesome incident, a 28-year-old PhD student from Italy studying in Cairo was abducted, tortured, and murdered in what many believe was an attack by Egyptian state security forces.

    Clearly, Trump — whose lavish praise for another repressive dictator, Vladimir Putin, has already raised eyebrows — isn’t bothered by any of that. For Trump, all that matters is that Sisi is a tough leader who has done what Trump seems to think is a bang-up job of fighting terrorism in Egypt and who is one of Israel’s closest allies in the Middle East.

    Speaking to reporters Monday after meeting with Sisi, Trump said, “We agree on so many things. I just want to let everybody know in case there was any doubt that we are very much behind President el-Sisi. He's done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation.”

    Except that he hasn’t. Sisi has violently cracked down on all forms of dissent and turned Egypt into a police state arguably worse than anything seen under former President Hosni Mubarak, who was toppled in 2011 after 30 years in power. And for all of that, Sisi hasn’t actually done a very good job of fighting terrorism.


    Egypt's president is a bloodthirsty dictator. Trump thinks he's done a "fantastic job."
     
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