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I've looked and looked and can't seem to find the words "urged" or "warned" (or versions thereof) in that AP article.

 

Couldn't get the AP link to work. Same info without the editorial bias.

 

They didn't want him to sign.

 

That is simplistic. It wasn't a cause and effect situation. There was certainly overlap, but the South in general did not embrace the Lost Cause and put up statues as an embrace of segregation. Most of the Southerners from say 1880 - 1930, when most of these statues were erected, did not embrace the idea that it was a war over slavery. They were memorializing the struggle and successes of a largely undersupplied and overmatched Confederate Army against a larger, better equipped, Union Army. There were a lot of people still alive who remembered Reconstruction and its excesses. Those included forcing blacks into their government, which did inflame racist sentiments.

I grew up in Georgia, which has 159 counties, and damn near every courthouse square in those small towns had a statue of a Confederate soldier facing North. That wasn't about racism. The statues of the generals went up because they took armies of ill fed and often barefoot soldiers and won against the odds. There are not nearly as many statues of Jefferson Davis, who was largely ineffectual. I'd bet Lee and Jackson outnumber him by ten to one or better.

That history, and that animosity against the North, was co-opted by the Klan and other racists. It was an easy button to push, a lever to move people's emotions. Certainly the Confederate flag was always seen as a racist symbol by blacks, and quite rightly.

I have no problem with a majority black city like New Orleans deciding to remove those symbols from large public spaces. If I were black no doubt I'd be pushing for it as well.

 

Every town in New England has a memorial to its Civil War dead. Such memorials in the states that went Confederate are entirely appropriate. Everyone deserves to mourn and remember. But the statues of Davis, Lee, Beauregard, etc. are a different matter.

 

The white's only ceremony to dedicate the statue to Jeff Davis in New Orleans and the Stone Mountain monument - funded by the KKK - agree: The South did not put up statues of Confederate war heroes as an embrace of segregation.

 

Woodward is just setting the ground so he can interview Trump by showing how fair he is in criticizing the MSM

 

If you ask a FCC commissioner to communicate, he might have the government's gun thugs rough you up.

 

Yes, it would be a perfectly reasonable inside news brief. Not an hour-long teevee show preceded by at least half a day's wall-to-wall hyping.

 

I'm wondering how many King George III statues there are in the US. Thomas Gage? William Howe ? Charles Cornwallis? John Burgoyne? Plenty of Tories in the colonies and later the States in the late 18th century.

 

General Benedict Arnold won some stirring battles in the Revolutionary War. Where are the statues for him?