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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    Global...climate...done by Obama...

    It had to go.

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    DanielSimpsonDay, Jun 2, 2017
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  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    LOL.
     
    doctorquant, Jun 2, 2017
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  3. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I thought symbolism was important.
     
    QYFW, Jun 2, 2017
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  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    This nails it. Trump kept braying about getting us out and "getting a better deal". There is no contract. Each individual country sets its own standards. International peer pressure keeping an eye on them enforces the standards being met. If he didn't like the standards, they could be changed. Yes, I do know and understand that the U.S. as one of the biggest and richest economies in the world was being asked to help fund it. We could if we weren't making a political football out of the science.

    Trump has no clue and no interest with regard to long term planning. He's looking at the short term money not spent, as well as creating a big distracting issue to get Trump/Russia off of the front page. He even gets to meet a campaign promise and beat the drum about that. What we can all see coming and he can't is the number of people who will be in the streets demonstrating against him yet again, and the number of activists and people who agree getting charged up to really raise hell about it.
     
    Neutral Corner, Jun 2, 2017
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  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Where does that "profitable green economy" exist? Without government subsidization (and in the case of China AND the U.S. that means a lot of debt and no return on "investment"), wind, solar, etc. don't exist, except in some niche corner of green evangelicals. That ain't changing anytime soon.

    The reason coal ain't coming back in the U.S. has nothing to do with a mythical "green economy." It's natural gas at $3 /mmBTU due to shale technology. To the extent we have a "green economy," the last president turned the Department of Energy into the world's worst hedge fund -- running up debt (that we are all on the hook for, and the misallocation of capital hurts us way more economically than most people realize) to fund a lot of UNPROFITABLE (and many already bankrupt) things. But that's what you get when our government (or the Chinese government) is funneling capital to where politicians think it should go (often for corrupt and cronyistic reasons), rather than capital finding its best uses by the owners of it being on the hook for the risks they take with it.

    I'm not afraid of China leaping ahead of us in some mythical "green" world that doesn't exist. But the Kyoto Agreement was a failure because it tried to force countries to do things they were never going to do. This accord? It was a no brainer. It didn't force us to do much of anything. It didn't cost us anything. To the extent it had any positive effect on man-made global warming, it wasn't going to be a bad thing. And not being a part of it is just a dick move -- it's telling the rest of the world that we have an erratic ass as president, who they can't rely on to do anything -- even something that is a no brainer.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jun 2, 2017
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  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I like it because it really doesn't do shit (and therefore likely won't cost much). I don't like it because: A) it really doesn't do shit; and B) it's a treaty and should have been ratified by the Senate.
     
    doctorquant, Jun 2, 2017
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  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Neutral Corner, Jun 2, 2017
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  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Neutral Corner, Jun 2, 2017
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  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    He cannot do so. He made a version of the conversation public. Also, Comey is a private citizen now. He can just stand outside the Capitol and hold a press conference and there's not squat Trump can do about it.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jun 2, 2017
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  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Explanations for Kushner’s meeting with head of Kremlin-linked bank don’t match up

    "ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — The White House and a Russian state-owned bank have very different explanations for why the bank’s chief executive and Jared Kushner held a secret meeting during the presidential transition in December.

    The bank maintained this week that the session was held as part of a new business strategy and was conducted with Kushner in his role as the head of his family’s real estate business. The White House says the meeting was unrelated to business and was one of many diplomatic encounters the soon-to-be presidential adviser was holding ahead of Donald Trump’s inauguration.

    The contradiction is deepening confusion over Kushner’s interactions with the Russians as the president’s son-in-law emerges as a key figure in the FBI’s investigation into potential coordination between Moscow and the Trump team."
     
    Neutral Corner, Jun 2, 2017
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  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Neutral Corner, Jun 2, 2017
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