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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    And it's all the fault of the Clinton's, Obama and the media.
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

  3. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    It's not like you've said anything original in a few years. "Something, something brown people" is your default position on any topic.
     
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Just to recap, that is a senior advisor (and son) of the President releasing an e-mail himself in which he clearly accepts an offer of information from a foreign government, illegally obtained through hacking, for the purposes of furthering an election campaign. Then he lied about that meeting in order to help protect another senior advisor who lied about the meeting on his security clearance application, which is itself another serious crime.

    Oh, and it's a total coincidence and *not* quid pro quo that right as all this was happening, said candidate's only major change to his party's platform was to make significant positive changes in posture toward that foreign government.
     
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  5. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Isn't, "Something, something hypocrite liberals" yours?
     
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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Is there?

    Doesn't look like the Russians even delivered on a promise of incriminating evidence.

    If they had, I imagine it would have been given to the FBI and/or leaked to the press.

    And there's no evidence of any quid pro quo.

    Looks like the Russian lawyer used a false pretext to get a meeting to discuss sanctions. Once that became clear, the meeting wrapped up.

    Where's the collision or the crime?
     
  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Within 24 hours of the existence of the email being reported, he released it.

    That's a good thing.

    There's nothing illegal about taking the meeting. Even you can't make that case.

    And, nothing came of the meeting.

    Still a nothing burger.
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    1) Taking the meeting *is* collusion, even if the goods weren't delivered (which they were, the Trump campaign and those allied with it repeatedly used information obtained through illegal Russian hacking).

    2) Kushner lied about the meeting on his security clearance application, which is a felony. Trump, Jr., lied about this meeting to try to help that cover it up, making him an accessory to said felony, also a felony.

    3) There *is* evidence of quid pro quo. The timing itself is evidence of quid pro quo.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I thought this summed it up pretty well, YF:
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

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  12. SpeedTchr

    SpeedTchr Well-Known Member

    How the hell does one get a degree from high school?
     
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