President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

I'll write a few more Happy Jack Natco stories one of these days.

 

I don't mind coffee out of a vending machine, either, if that's my only option. But if I have options, I'm getting good coffee for $2.75 (yes, that's how much a cup of black, venti coffee costs) instead of $1.50.

 

Yes, Trump said this. He said it to draw a distinction between those he sees as "good people" who are against the tearing down of a statue, and the white supremacists, not as a defense of the white supremacists. And, he didn't define the "good people" as white nationalists either.

Now, I do believe he is wrong on this. I don't think there were many "good people" at this rally. It was promoted as a racist/neo-Nazi event, not some bland "defend the statue" event. I think "good people" that showed up, would have left when they saw what it was.

But, even if Trump is wrong, there's no fair reading ow what he said that could be interpreted as him defending white supremacists.

 

My rule stands: Anytime someone says 'this is why Democrats lose elections,' they really just mean "I don't like it and I think that attaching it to the complicated world of elections legitimizes my point."

 

Trump not realizing there are no non-white supremacists on that side isn't a defense. It's why he doesn't realize he's a white supremacist too.

 

He took a horrible tack anyway for a president. His entire approach was bullshit.
The moment, and the situation, called for moral leadership. Stop rationalizing his behavior.

 

It's funny how Germany manages to teach the history of the Holocaust and WWII (and its guilt) without any Nazi statues around.

 

Do you believe that the Democrats - and by Democrats I mean Hillary Clinton - are complicit in any way for their own election defeat? I want to establish this baseline.

 

That's not what he said.

You are responding to an imaginary post.

The question is whether it was appropriate for the New York Times, in a straight news headline, to write that he "defended white supremacists."

 

If you like it, drink it.

I think that, like a lot of things, if you get used to better coffee, you might not like your 7-11 coffee as much, but there's nothing wrong with drinking what you like.

 

It is appropriate because he did. It's the same bullshit argument we've had before. All language is heavily contextual, and involves some degree of subjective interpretation. It is impossible to ever state anything without it.