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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Let's all stipulate that @qtlaw is a nice, and sincere -- if somewhat naïve -- guy.

    And, what should we stipulate about Betsy DeVos? Are you willing to say anything nice about her? Or are you determined to demonize her because, though you may have the same goals, she thinks there's a different, better way to achieve those goals than you do?

    And, while I don't know how many hours she put in over five years, I know she made a difference in the lives of two girls, and their families. That's more than most of do. And, if more of us did this, maybe we wouldn't need the government to do so much (including things the government isn't very good at doing).

    You really should listen to the story, btw. The woman who talks about the church based mentoring program that DeVos participated in talks about how their Church is very white, and how they really didn't interact with a lot of poor people of color, and how this program was specifically designed to encourage them to have these interactions.

    Again, that's a good thing. These people live(d) their values.

    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior. We should give some credit to the folks willing to put the time in to make their communities better.
     
  2. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member



    Not on trumps best day.
     
  3. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Did you read it, or are you just knee-jerking to the headline, which is in now way racist either? But there has to be a reason for such a ridiculous response to what I posted.
     
  4. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Private, individual action is one thing. Seeking to impose your particular religious views on an entire country of kids is another. And it is wrong.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I hear a lot of fuck DeVos, but she's put in the time and money to try and make a difference, even if you disagree with her.

    I don't ever hear fuck Cook or fuck Zuckerberg or fuck Schmidt or fuck Sandberg from the left.

    Democrat politicians, including your last nominee were up their asses. But, they could make an immediate difference in the lives of thousands of workers on their campuses overnight if they chose to. They don't need a government program to force them to treat their contract workers with dignity and respect, or to pay them a wage that would allow them to live somewhere other than a garage.

    But, while they run incredibly profitable companies, and are personally worth billions, they won't do this.

    But, Betsy DeVos and Donald Trump are evil? Fuck that.

    Make a difference where you can. Stop waiting for the government to improve peoples' lives. It's not going to happen.
     
  6. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Is there a list of whom they should be granted to?
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Interesting take. I wonder if others agree.

    Sure, Obama's popular, and may be able to rally folks to fight this, but he's also a good foil for Trump, and every minute that he, Clinton, and/or Sanders remains as the face of the party, it prevents other potential leaders from breaking through.

     
  8. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    That's racist.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Who suggested that was a good thing?
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    You guys are trying but facts get in the way. De Vos hammered Michigan public education. There are stats,, But the attitude of moral superiority based on being a snotty white male, that's on you. At what point do you guys go from contrarians to racists monsters?
     
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  11. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Go to bed, Gee.
     
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  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

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