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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I imagine more th
    Who would have thought Rag would have the best career of anyone in that movie?
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Nobody did and we are being slow as fuck to recognize the full extent of it. There is still this feeling that this is some weird sideshow and we can ride out Trump and then everything goes back to normal with some Paul Ryan type turd winning the Repiblican nomination and bog-standard GOP lifers winning state level shit.

    There is a real, honest to goodness ethnonationalist fascist uprising in this country that has shoved its way back into the Overton window and isn't going away. It has the presidency, it is about to win a Senate seat in Alabama, and it has become a metastatic tumor in the Republican Party that is demographically inoperable because they can't win without it.
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Melania can't hide it sometimes. Her look on the second Puerto Rico!
     
  4. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    From the day he announced he was running, through the Mexican-American Judge, Bannon, Miller, the Muslim ban, Charlottesville, his response to Puerto Rico and this crap, someone please explain:

    How does anyone not believe Trump is a fucking racist?
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Self-interest. America is a deeply racist culture. That racism gives white people more power and better lives than they would be without it, at the expense of others. Acknowledging that would mean risking losing it.

    So it's very, very important to them to define "racism" as something other than what they do. You can only *really* be racist if you own slaves personally and sign a personal statement declaring your racism. Otherwise, people are just being politically correct and calling everyone racist these days.
     
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  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You expressed disdain earlier today that America is "losing its hegemony". (I believe it was you; apologies if not).

    Is it good for the world that the country you describe above HAS a hegemony? Acknowledging, of course, that this "deeply racist culture" predates Trump in the White House by, well, our entire history.
     
  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Given the current alternatives, yes.
     
  8. BadgerBeer

    BadgerBeer Well-Known Member

    Will there be a Friday afternoon news dump today? If so what are your predictions.

    Regarding the bolded, isn't the Trump White House empowering and legitimizing the racist culture?
     
  9. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    An argument could be made for such, but it's impossible to quantify.

    If there are xx million hateful racists in this country, I'd rather see them than "just know" they are bubbling under the surface somewhere. What Trump did was take the veil off America. It's not his "fault" that we don't like what was under the veil and just pretended for so many years that it really wasn't there.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It's not about how many hateful racists there are. Although they are certainly a problem.

    It's about the very non-hateful people using them as a scapegoat to avoid examining the ways they are influenced by and benefit from systemic racism.
     
  11. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    Not part of the news dump but a telling detail in Politico's story on Tim Murphy today. Apparently, Susan Mosychuk, his chief of state, was a piece of work.

    Inside Tim Murphy's reign of terror
     
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I mean, didn't the white noise freak the constituents out too? Are they waxing the floors in there? Somebody not know how to use Internet radio?
     
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