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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Hey, look I did find some evidence of collusion with Russia.

    This is a really damaging story that implicates... Google.


     
  2. Pete

    Pete Well-Known Member

    The Russia investigation is NOT primarily about determining whether there was collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. That is an important offshoot, but it's not the primary focus.

    The primary focus is investigating the many ways that the Russians interfered with our election process, including clearly illegal steps such as hacking the DNC. Such an accounting is essential for a number of reasons, including taking steps to prevent or limit future incursions. That's the point of the Russian investigation, and why it's so essential.

    But Trump continues on the FAKE NEWS/witch hunt front, and you're right there with him by equating the Russia investigation with the hunt for collusion – so therefore if they don't find collusion, it's a worthless (and politically motivated) investigation. Wrong. And dangerous.

    Meanwhile the White House has 1) blown off the Oct. 1 deadline to outline how they'll implement the sanctions that the Senate and House overwhelmingly passed because they couldn't trust the White House to do it (and haha, they still haven't, and maybe never will! take that, suckas!); 2) neither the Justice Department or any other part of the Executive branch has taken significant steps to improve cybersecurity, certainly nowhere near appropriate to the grave threat that is acknowledged by any serious person in government, with the notable exception – surprise! – of the President of the United States.

    I don't have time to find links. But they're not hard to find. And they likely won't change your mind anyway.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I guess I haven’t been paying close enough attention to this story.

    I probably shouldn’t rely on @Neutral Corner to keep me updated on all the developments.

    It turns out more evidence of collusion has been found.



     
  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    What are you even arguing?

    That the Russia investigation is only legitimate if it finds things that incriminate people other than Trump?

    And, if it finds something on Trump, it's only because of sour grapes from the election?
     
  6. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]

    "Could ya give it a second? Just a second?"
     
  7. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The Russian investigation keeps expanding.

     
  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That certainly sounds like the type of argument YF would make.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Tell Trump that's Tom Brady, he'll get behind it.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So, Fusion GPS executives refused to testify, and are now trying to quash a subpoena.

    What would be so damaging about exposing their clients and contractors?

    Who’s been funding them?

    Who have they been paying? Main stream journalists?

    Lawyers for the opposition research firm Fusion GPS argued in a late-night court filing that a subpoena from the House Intelligence Committee seeking all of the firm's bank records over more than two years is "overbroad" and would "irreparably damage" Fusion's business.

    Fusion's lawyers argued that "compliance with the subpoena poses an existential threat to plaintiff's business" because it "will result in the disclosure of several thousand financial transactions and the revelation of Plaintiff's relationship with approximately 25 clients and approximately 30 contractors."

    "In short, compliance with this subpoena will not only harm Plaintiff's business, it has a high likelihood of ruining it," the firm's lawyers said.

    The court filing argued for a temporary restraining order and came several weeks after the House Intelligence Committee, chaired by Republican Rep. Devin Nunes, subpoenaed TD Bank for Fusion's records in an effort to determine who paid for the Trump-Russia "dossier" - a collection of memos written by former British spy Christopher Steele alleging extensive ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    Fusion was reportedly hired in late 2015 by anti-Trump Republicans. Democrats took over funding for the opposition research after Trump won the GOP nomination. Steele was hired to write the dossier shortly thereafter, between June-December 2016. The identities of the Republicans and Democrats who commissioned Fusion are still unknown.

     
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