President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Bromance alert!

 

It truly doesn't matter. I've never given a crap about those things. The inauguration shouldn't be a celebrity musician event

 

I didn't like that because it reminded me of the contents of my pants.

 

Gurgle gurgle glug glug

 

YF,

I agree completely. Who cares? I mean, obviously Trump cares, but he shouldn't. Give the speech, watch the marching bands roll by, schmooze with the donors at some ballroom, and that's it.

 

Nothing you have mentioned comes close, not even remotely, to the colossal fuck up that was, imo, the single worst blunder in US presidential history:

Starting an entirely unnecessary, illegal, INSANELY costly, decade-long war based on utter bullshit and lies that friggin bankrupted our treasury, wrecked our nation's fiscal health, killed thousands of Americans and well over a hundred-thousand foreigners, maimed countless others, wrecked our standing in the international community, turned a once terrorist-free state into the world's leading terrorist breeding ground, created the power vaccum that led to the rise of ISIS, a refugee crisis, and so much other mayhem, and which just generally ended up making the world a far more dangerous, nasty and unstable place all around.

It is the mother of all presidential fuck ups. Anyone inclined to even attempt to favorably compare Bush to Obama would be well advised to stop before they start for that reason alone, there is no comeback to the unbelievably disastrously stupid thing that was that Iraq War.

 

Do you want him to tell the truth, or lie?

Your latter description is pretty damn accurate.

 

They're uppity

 

Funny, I look at the people who will be running the government and think the same.

 

Taibbi is fun when he's on.

Matt Taibbi: The Vampire Squid Occupies Trump's White House

 

None of those policies get blamed on him because they're really are either situations he inherited that have been going on for decades, situations that he inherited because of Bush's major fuck-ups, or things that are really not his fault.

Culture of no personal responsibility? What the heck is that? Conservatives have been ranting about personal responsibility for 40 years. Gas prices? Under Bush, they were pushing $4 and $5 a gallon in some areas. Those prices only went down when Bush was leaving office in January 2009 because the Great Recession hit which led to nobody traveling anywhere. Remember staycations?

Growth of the debt? Part of that was Obama adding Bush's two wars to the books. Another part of that was trying to keep the country afloat during the worst economy since the Great Depression. Contrast that with Bush, who more than doubled the debt while he was in office (including the wars that he refused to put on the books), while inheriting a pretty good economy from Clinton.

What you don't seem to realize is that Bush really was that bad a president. Obama, while not perfect, and yes, I wouldn't put him up there with the Washingtons, Lincolns, and FDRs, did a pretty damn good job with what he had to work with.

You really wanted him to find common ground with racists, sexists, religious fanatics and homophobes who have been clinging to the same ideology for hundreds of years? What sort of common ground should he have found with them? Also, he wasn't exactly at the forefront of the idea that racists, et. al. should be mocked. Ever watch "All in the Family?"

Plus, it's pretty hard to find common ground with a party and a group who flat-out admitted their sole goal is to see you fail. It takes two or more to find common ground. One side showed zero willingness to do so, especially since their ideas are specifically designed to, as you put it, look down upon other people and mock them.

You're talking about a party that practically admitted they wanted the country to fail because they hated Obama. They were the ones who ran the country into the ditch, and then complained that Obama wasn't letting them dig a deeper hole. As it's been pointed out, he used executive orders less frequently than recent modern presidents.

I know, you'll say it wasn't the quantity of orders, it was the content of the orders. How do you measure the severity of the content?

As far as constant legal challenges, there have been constant legal challenges going back nearly 250 years. It's also interesting you mention constant legal wrangling. Remind me again, how many Benghazi investigations were there?

Let's see. We went into a sovereign foreign nation on pretenses that were, at best, disputable and at worst, a flat-out lie. We killed hundreds of thousands of people in this nation, destroyed its infrastructure, and had zero preparation for the aftermath after a certain staged plane landing on an ship. We had little understanding of the populace, how they were not a truly unified nation and had longstanding sectarian strife. Oh, and we mocked our longstanding allies who didn't want to participate in this little adventure as well.

Obama inherits this, at a time when our credibility with the world was severely lacking because of this fuck-up, and what was he supposed to do? Talk about how everything is awesome like a Gannett executive would do?