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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    From the co-founder and publisher of Real Clear Politics.

    What Joe's done publicly, and on camera, just ended the career of a Hollywood big shot.

     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Conyers is 88. Should've gone a decade ago. Biden isn't going to be President because he's too old. Same for Sanders. Contrast is what usually happens in presidential elections. Trump's old. More likely the Democrats will choose a younger nominee. As of today, I'd bet it's a woman, too.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    One more thing. You can't MAKE an elected official resign. You can tell him to, but the House and Senate as such have only two options -- expulsion and censure ("you've been a bad boy") -- for dealing with bad behavior by members.
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Michael, you wanna put down the big wide tar brush, please? There are a whole lot of little blue dots in a big red state who can't outvote all the rest, you know? That's not how this Democracy thing works. Last I heard the race was polling about even.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I think you're dead right that the Dems nominate a woman. It's time, and when you add in the current wave of sexual harassment which shows no signs of subsiding anytime soon, it's smart. I think the best of the next wave of potential candidates are women. Hillary was the victim of a lot of misogyny, but her biggest problem wasn't being a woman, it was being Hillary.
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, Neutral, but if Moore wins, that says something very bad about 50 percent plus whatever of those citizens of your state who bothered to vote. People outside the state are gonna point fingers. People pointed fingers at Boston during the busing thing in the '70s. We weren't all like that, anything but, but those folks weren't wrong to point, either.
     
  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Shrug. Yeah. Hell, I was already saying that Jones needed to win by at least 10% just to scrape some of the stench off of the state. That said, you know damn well I didn't make this bed, and it pisses me off to be caught up in a sweeping generalization.

    It's about to be a lot worse for me anyhow, but I'll stick the explanation for that in an upcoming post. SMDH.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Guaranteed Moore wins. 52.2%
     
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Everyone hates being caught up in such generalizations when they don't deserve it as you don't. But should Moore win, it will happen, because conclusion jumping knows no regional boundaries nor ideology. It's not right, but it's human nature.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I won't be. Admittedly, I'm starting to experience a little bit of Big Ongoing Story fatigue at this point.
     
  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    So back around 2000, 2001, UAB Football was caught up in the one real scandal it has ever suffered. UAB in general has stayed very clean with the NCAA, and has not had many bad apples who made the police blotter. Virtually all such players got the boot quickly. That said, the one real stinker was a scandal where an underage student at UAB, who was fifteen at the time, became the team party girl. There were fifteen or twenty players involved with her, including sex, alcohol, and weed. A bunch of heads rolled as a result, including a coach and the UAB Chief of Police, who were both alleged to have had knowledge of it.

    Her family sued, and the university reached a settlement with them. I'm certain it included an NDA, as such usually do.

    ESPN the Magazine put it on the cover, and it was the worst black eye to the University itself or any of the athletic teams that I know of.

    I don't, can't, won't, attempt to excuse the players or anyone else who knew about it and didn't put it to a stop immediately. I do have some thoughts on the level of awareness on the part of her parents, and I personally would have never have allowed my fifteen year old son (I have no daughters) to live in an adult college dorm full time when my home was less than an hour from campus. There are many people who live in Chelsea who commute to jobs in Birmingham daily. That's as close to victim blaming as I'll ever get on this.

    In any case, at a time when the football team should be glowing with pride after getting their 8th win against 0-fer the season UTEP, they're going to have to deal with having all this crap dragged out and examined again.

    One of the UAB attorneys, whose job it was to find weaknesses in Brittany Benefield's testimony and defuse and discredit it in any way possible was Doug Jones... and this is going to get blown up because it is being disclosed at a time when "believing the women" is huge. In any case, read the article. I think that Jones simply did his job and represented his client, if for no other reason than that badgering a fifteen year old about it in any way was a complete loser of a strategy. I'm sure that it was more than that, but simple logic says he used kid gloves as much as he possibly could while asking probing questions.

    In any case, here you go. You get it ahead of most of the rest of the nation.

    *edit* Google News shows Breitbart putting up a related story 11 hours ago.

    Accuser in UAB sex abuse case calls out Jones for 'hypocrisy' for position on Moore accusers

     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2017
  12. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    Lets try this again...
    • He wanted to run; his dead son wanted him to run. But he decided not to because it was Hillary's turn and suddenly she had dirt on him, which didn't come out during the 2008 or 2012 campaigns.
    • So he was going wait eight years -- once Hillary's term was over -- to actually run, which he wants to do and his dead son wanted him to. Becasue the dirt wouldn't matter then.
    LOL. YGBFKM.
     
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