President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Neutral Corner · Jan 25, 2018

No one threw a shoe yet?

Neutral Corner · Jan 25, 2018

"There is a wider group of people, dominated by political types, who say the Trump presidency is just as offensive as they always thought but has come with an alluring benefit: The chance for other nations to fill a power vacuum left by a U.S. retreat from global leadership.

“If America retreats so many [vacuums] are going to appear,” said Werner Hoyer, president of the EU’s European Investment Bank. “Which at the end of the day is an opportunity for Europe.”

Marietje Schaake, a prominent Dutch politician in the European Parliament is like many at Davos in loathing Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accords, among other things. Of his scheduled Friday speech here, she said: “With low expectations, it will not take much to exceed them. Still, at the end of the day, while words matter, actions always speak louder than words.”

The buffoon presidency? Davos elites learn to live with Trump

Songbird · Jan 25, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

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It'd be funny if we come to find he did no such thing.

heyabbott · Jan 25, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

Rock star.

And, from the way Tillerson is looking at him, I’d say he’s in love. (Not in a gay way.)

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Everyone loves to look at a car wreck

TigerVols · Jan 25, 2018

Pete said: ↑

If you have the time, the transcript of Trump's impromptu press gaggle yesterday is worth a read. CNN also has the full video.

Transcript

There's something for everyone, but here are two quick (for me) things that annoyed me, and two that amused me.

1. Trump said that if DACA legislation isn't passed by the deadline, he could simply extend it himself:

Yeah, I might do that. I might do that. I'm not guaranteeing it because I want to put a little bit of -- but I certainly have the right to do that if I want.

You might recall that he tweeted something similar back a few days after he first canned the DACA executive order, presumably because he didn't like some of the coverage suggesting he was mean to do so. The problem: isn't his administration's publicly stated rationale for him rescinding the order (though giving a window for Congress to "solve" it) because they think the order was unconstitutional? So if it's unconstitutional, how would they justify him simply continuing it? And if he can continue it on his own whenever he wants, then why not just do it now? Or why rescind it in the first place? Unless, of course, it's simply a cynical bargaining chip to extract concessions from Dems – who actually care about DACA – on the wall and, crucially, drastically changing legal immigration to move away from "shithole" countries.

2. Trump twice indicated that he would do a clean DACA-for-the-wall deal, such as:

And then after we do DACA, we'll take a look at the even-bigger immigration problem.

Then in the same conversation, just as he did in his big deal-making meeting a few weeks back, he indicated that any deal needs to address so-called chain migration and the lottery system, i.e. significant, restrictive changes to legal immigration. Yeah, he's going to be a great help to make a deal.

3. His parting shot was classic Trump:

The fact is, you people won't say this but I'll say it. I was a much better candidate than [Hillary]. You always say she was a bad candidate, you never say I was a good candidate. I was one of the greatest candidates. Nobody else would've beaten the Clinton machine, as crooked as it was. But I was a great candidate. One day you're going to say that.

4. But my favorite part was this:

But we're saving hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, by building that wall. So Phyllis George, I like Phyllis George, I'll tell you, and I like John White Brown a lot, he was a good friend of mine, you know that. Do you know that?

Yes, it seems he's talking about *that* Phyllis George, the former Miss America and NFL Today co-host. He presumably means John Y. Brown, who was her husband when Brown was the Governor of Kentucky from 1979-83. No, I have no idea why he brought up Phyllis George. Does anybody know? Was the reporter from Kentucky or something? It's not like they were talking about the Kentucky school shooting (which Trump hasn't addressed at all, has he?). Purely from looking at the transcript, it appears to be out of nowhere.

Though it's an open question as to whether that's funnier than Trump arguing that spending $20B to build the wall will save "hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars." And not to be a pedant, but there's a big difference between hundreds of millions and hundreds of billions.
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Paging @YankeeFan ... since you're so much better at spending hours mining teh Googles than the rest of us, would you please go back to January, 2010, and remind us again how many times President Obama bored us all with tales of his defeating John McCain? It's bound to have been well more that Trump's, right? I mean, he's only mentioned her no fewer than 230 times since taking office. TIA!

QYFW · Jan 25, 2018

Neutral Corner said: ↑

"There is a wider group of people, dominated by political types, who say the Trump presidency is just as offensive as they always thought but has come with an alluring benefit: The chance for other nations to fill a power vacuum left by a U.S. retreat from global leadership.

“If America retreats so many [vacuums] are going to appear,” said Werner Hoyer, president of the EU’s European Investment Bank. “Which at the end of the day is an opportunity for Europe.”

Marietje Schaake, a prominent Dutch politician in the European Parliament is like many at Davos in loathing Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accords, among other things. Of his scheduled Friday speech here, she said: “With low expectations, it will not take much to exceed them. Still, at the end of the day, while words matter, actions always speak louder than words.”

The buffoon presidency? Davos elites learn to live with Trump
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Good luck with that.

Neutral Corner · Jan 25, 2018

GOP panics as signs point to imminent Mueller blockbuster

cranberry · Jan 25, 2018

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As for the economy/stock market, are you really trying to say that Trump has made a difference? Are we going to give Obama credit for the tax cut, and the bonuses/wage increases we've seen?
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Again, the economy isn't the stock market.

And what wage increases? A bunch of companies are pretending this is some big windfall for employees because they're throwing them a few crumbs in the form of one-time bonuses that won't increase their wage base. It's a PR campaign.

Few large US companies say they'll use tax savings to boost wages, CNBC survey finds

Neutral Corner · Jan 25, 2018

I heard him say this yesterday. I'm betting that the Freedom Caucus shit a collective brick.

Trump Indicates He's Open To Path To Citizenship For DACA Recipients

garrow · Jan 25, 2018

I've been saying Trump is a rock star for a long time: he's belligerent, uninformed, contributes no tangible benefit to his fans, consorts with unsavory characters, has "secret" liaisons with porn stars.

In the fall of 2016, they shocked the world by storming to the top of the charts. But they were woefully unprepared for success and every day brought forth new controversies. Coming up on Behind the White House, a series of high profile departures, legal trouble and a cancellation of a key UK tour threaten to slow the band's momentum.

Neutral Corner · Jan 25, 2018

WISGOP Fires Ethics, Election Heads Weeks Before Election

HanSenSE · Jan 25, 2018

Inky_Wretch said: ↑

So the whole basis of the "secret society" out to undermine Trump is a joke text?

The full 'secret society' text between FBI agents: Was it meant in jest?
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Also member of a secret society:

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