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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    "Religious leader sentenced to death" would be an acceptable headline for the Charles Manson sentence, then.
     
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  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    See? You DO understand why doing that might lead to a misleading memo, er, story.
     
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  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    So no we're turning our backs on veterans with drug problems. Something that a lot of veterans have because war fucks up people's brains.
     
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  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Only if you believe "Judgment exists" and "shitty judgment is good" are interchangeable statements.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Rick, two pounds of coke isn't a guy with a drug problem. It's possession with intent to distribute.
     
  6. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Not exactly "no," as YF pointed out.
     
  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Release everything. Every morsel.

    Because otherwise, democracy dies in darkness.
     
  8. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    To clarify, that was Inky's ludicrous phrase.

    Probably just using it to treat his PTSD.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I don't even disagree with you.

    I also don't believe he just thought it was automatic, when he was sworn in.

    And, I think you could make a case that you need to get an honorable discharge to get your citizenship, otherwise, where is the line drawn? You serve one day, and get booted for something, but you still get your citizenship.

    But, let's tell the whole story, and not say he "was arrested", making it sound like this just happened, and is some reflection on Trump.

    He was taken into custody during the Obama administration, and was ordered deported. All that happened now was that he lost an appeal.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


    No. We're still talking about sources and methods in a sensitive intelligence document.

    Release both the R and D versions after they have been redacted, at the same time, and let the public judge things in context if you're going to do it. This crap of only releasing the Nunes version in the name of "transparency" is political bullshit.
     
  11. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Drug issues leave Army veteran marked for deportation

    That's a solid and unbiased hook. Let the reader go from there.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He was already out of the military before the rules changed in 2009.

    Would he even be eligible if he received a less than honorable discharge?

    Qualifications
    A member of the U.S. armed forces must meet the requirements and qualifications to become a citizen of the United States. He or she must demonstrate:

    • Good moral character,
    • Knowledge of the English language,
    • Knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics), and
    • Attachment to the principles of the Constitution of the United States by taking an Oath of Allegiance to the United States.
    ...


    Service during Periods of Hostilities

    The President signed an executive order on July 3, 2002, authorizing all noncitizens who have served honorably in the U.S. armed forces on or after Sept. 11, 2001, to file for citizenship under section 329 of the INA. Section 329 also covers veterans of certain designated past wars and conflicts. The authorization related to the War on Terrorism will remain in effect until a date designated by a future presidential executive order.

    Naturalization at Basic Training
    USCIS established the Naturalization at Basic Training Initiative in August 2009 with the Army to give noncitizen enlistees the opportunity to naturalize when they graduate from basic training. Under this initiative, USCIS conducts all naturalization processing including the capture of biometrics, the naturalization interview and administration of the Oath of Allegiance on the military installation. Since 2009 USCIS has expanded the initiative to the Navy, Air Force, and finally to the Marine Corps in 2013, giving enlistees of these branches equal opportunity to (in most cases) leave basic training as U.S. citizens.

    Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet
     
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