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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. John B. Foster

    John B. Foster Well-Known Member


     
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  2. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    A SCIF can be "closed" or "open" - "closed," being everything classified is locked away and no classified work is getting done or in view.


    Please though: Take this opportunity to tell me all about a SCIF, a topic which I'm certain you have much, much more experience than I do.
     
  3. John B. Foster

    John B. Foster Well-Known Member

  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL, and duh.

    Which means... it wasn’t operating as a SCIF when Kelly fired her.

    I’m glad the ridiculous picture of Jay-Z provided you the opportunity to point this out, which you had conveniently omitted from your prior comment.
     
  5. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    link?
     
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  6. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    Shutting down a SCIF is a pain in the ass. Every thing has to be put away - computers shut down, hard drives removed and locked away. Full stop on classified work. It basically doesn't happen during the work day - first person who arrives "opens" things up and signs all the forms, etc. Last person to leave "closes" it, making sure everything is locked away, etc., and signs all the forms.

    I'm pretty skeptical that they shut down the SCIF during a work day to have a meeting with Omarosa. More than likely: She committed a violation.

    Nevertheless: Stop being so defensive. I'm not blaming Kelly or Trump or anyone else other than Omarosa. She had for sure been briefed on the rules, and if the SCIF was "open," and she brought in her phone, it's a violation. Bringing her phone in isn't a "crime," - it's a violation. Violations can result in anything from reprimand, termination, loss of clearance, or a criminal charge. For starters: Your FSO (facility security officer) is going to be pissed off, because he's about to have to report potential leakage, and will likely face questions and possibly a security audit.
     
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  7. melock

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  8. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Pro military (contractor) but maybe not pro soldier.

     
  9. SoloFlyer

    SoloFlyer Well-Known Member

    Not permitted and being a crime is an important distinction, though.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Exactly. There are security breaches for which you can be reprimand, those for which you can be fired, and those for which you can be prosecuted.
     
  11. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    "Bringing a cell phone in" is not in and of itself a crime, but it is a violation of what one agreed to when granted a clearance. And a violation can be a considered a crime.
     
  12. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    Somewhere in a Russian troll farm, there is at least one guy who suggested it, was laughed at by his supervisors, and now is feeling vindicated.
     
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