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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    I'd settle for permanent exile to Palm Beach, with the condition that he never leave the island again.
     
  2. Rainman

    Rainman Well-Known Member

    So even though Strzok has been caught lying, it's a conspiracy. Got it.

    Nevertheless, it wasn't Trump's claim, it's your obsession with Trump that makes it "his claim".
     
  3. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    And away we go

     
  4. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    What a fucking joke this whole thing is
     
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  5. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    Yep. But it's OK to cut taxes for the wealthy. Dick move by Trump but no surprise.
     
  6. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    What about the federal coal miners why don't they get a raise
     
  7. GilGarrido

    GilGarrido Active Member

    The original WaPo article linked several pages ago, and the various links within that article, provide a fuller picture, including showing that birth fraud is a decades-old problem that has been a concern of previous administrations. I worked on immigrant visa applications in a consulate in Mexico in the late 1980s, and we saw a lot of document fraud involving midwives and church baptismal certificates. What I saw wasn't quite the same as the situation the article covers; many of the applications I reviewed relied on recently obtained Texas birth certificates based on records or affidavits about births or baptisms from decades earlier, and those newly confirmed citizens (often living in Mexico) were the basis for immigrant visa applications to benefit their relatives, who were usually living illegally in the U.S. and had hired a lawyer to help them try to get legal residency. Based on what I saw, I'm sure there are thousands of people who are U.S. citizens based on fraudulent birth documents, either about their own births or those of relatives. I'm sure that a lot of them have no idea that they or their relatives weren't born in the U.S., and in many cases it may not be possible to prove one way or the other.

    All that said, I don't see a benefit in stripping citizenship from people who have lived their whole lives as U.S. citizens, even in the cases where there is strong suspicion or proof that they were not originally entitled to citizenship.
     
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  8. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    If the information was false, there would have been no FISA warrant.
     
  9. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

  10. garrow

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  11. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    And here is the rationalization Fox News is offering.

     
  12. GilGarrido

    GilGarrido Active Member

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    I wonder what the net revenue impact would be of indexing capital gains to inflation and at the same time making the long-term capital gains rate (and the dividend rate, I suppose) the same as the rate on ordinary income. Compared to the current system, this would encourage stock sales by middle- and upper-middle-income people who had held their shares for a long time and discourage sales by upper-income people who hadn't held their shares as long. Indexing capital gains seems sort of consistent with the current practice of indexing the tax brackets for ordinary income, and if you have indexation, it seems consistent to tax capital gains and ordinary income at the same rates.
     
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