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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Emotionally speaking.
     
  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    As opposed to the standpoint of Prohibition-era lingo?

     
  3. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    This guy is just a fucking lunatic
     
  4. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    With the benefit of hindsight, the Democratic donors who are upset about Franken being drummed out of the Senate need to STFU.

    In the year since the #MeToo movement began, Americans have relearned one old truth and learned one new one. The old truth is that, when it comes to perpetrators of sexual harassment, politics doesn’t matter. Liberal men and conservative men, socialist men and fascist men, anti-feminist men and avowedly feminist men—some percentage of all these subspecies prey on women. For every Clarence Thomas, there’s a Bill Clinton.

    The newer truth, which was less clear a year ago, is that while politics may not determine your propensity to abuse women sexually, it does determine your ability to get away with it. This wasn’t always the case. Through the Clinton years, and up until #MeToo itself, neither liberal nor conservative men paid much of a price for their sexual misconduct. Regardless of ideology, most harassers got away with it. (Including at the liberal magazine I once edited). The divergence between how liberals and conservatives respond to sexual harassment only really became significant last December, when Al Franken resigned from the Senate.

    The Franken resignation, in retrospect, was a historical crossroads. It was a crossroads because Democrats had plenty of excuses for standing by him. His apparent penchant for groping unsuspecting women, while hideous, was milder than the accusations against many other alleged sexual harassers, including the president. He was a champion of women’s rights. The ethics committee had not begun an investigation. Even some prominent feministssaid he should keep his job. And yet he was forced to resign.

    The push came primarily from Kirsten Gillibrand and other women senators. Part of their logic was that unless Democrats kept their own house spotless, they’d lack the moral authority to challenge Trump and other Republican harassers. “For the last decade, Democrats have been pointing the finger at the Republican Party for devaluing women,” explained Guy Cecil, former executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. “This is a requirement to be able to look at them with a straight face and say we’re the party that cares about them.”

    This weekend’s accusation that Brett Kavanaugh assaulted a woman in high school shows just how wise that logic was. Republicans desperately want the public to believe the assault charge is a smokescreen: that Democrats are looking for any opportunity to defeat a nominee whose politics they oppose. That’s true: Democrats are looking for any opportunity to block Kavanaugh’s confirmation. But Democrats can also credibly demand an investigation into the allegations against Kavanaugh because, when it comes to sexual harassment, they have earned the moral high ground. They earned it with Franken. Yes, Kavanaugh’s alleged incident occurred while he was in high school. But, if true, it’s worse than anything Franken is alleged to have done—and Democrats ditched him without even the benefit of a hearing. When it comes to Kavanaugh, Democrats may be opportunists, but they’re not hypocrites.​

    Brett Kavanaugh, Al Franken, and the Split Over Sexual-Misconduct Claims - The Atlantic
     
  5. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    That better have been off the cuff because if it wasn't, dozens should have be fired.
     
  6. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    True that. I just checked Google News, and Stormy and the Mushroom have disappeared from the feature news link. I put it on US news and tried again and the only such story was about Stormy and Trump's hair. On his head.
     
  9. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    You will be assimilated.
    Resistance is futile.
     
  10. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Still seeing it in a Google search.

    Y’all are friggin’ daft.
     
  11. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Since, apparently, any accusation is enough these days -- no matter how old or sketchy -- is there anything Kavanaugh can do or say to disprove it? At least to the satisfaction of the people who don't care one way or the other whether the accusation is true or not?
     
  12. Severian

    Severian Well-Known Member

    Stable genius.
     
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