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What's the play for Lindsey?

Honest question, I don't see what's in in for him, being Donald's toady.

Who in the fuck would want to be AG after Trump boots Sessions? That can't be what Lindsey is eyeing.

 

Top of the world, Ma!

King said his critics had failed to offer anything specific.

"It’s uninformed. If it wasn’t, they would’ve cited something that gave them grief," King said on Wednesday. "Same with Stivers. If you attack someone and you don’t cite anything, you’re just a cannibal. That’s all you are."

King, in the interview, praised Trump on his vow to end birthright citizenship by executive order and argued that the president has the power to do so.

King said the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of citizenship shouldn’t apply to people who weren’t admitted to the U.S. as residents. If so, "you could put the same definition on an invading army, and argue that an invading army comes in, and if there are females in that army and have babies, they’re citizens," he said.

As for Stivers, King wouldn’t elaborate on the rare rebuke from a party’s top election strategist against an incumbent so close to an election. But he suggested he would after Election Day.

"That’s as far as I’m willing to go right now," King said. "Unlike him, I’m not willing to risk the majority by following my instincts here. Those are scores that can be settled after the election."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

Looks like the love child of Oscar the Grouch and Youppi.

 

Looks like a little Orange Duce genetics mixed in there too.

 

Mine fully loaded is more than 100 pounds. There are after market wheel kits. My guess on the wheel thing is the bigger ones aren't really meant to be moved around. They are more for keeping on a boat or in the bed of a truck. They have rubber feet to and tie down slots to help keep them from sliding.

 

Which makes them suck for our intramural softball league, especially if we’re the away team!

(Four cases of craft beer and a lot of ice is heavy... getting too old to move stuff like that).

Thanks for the tip - they look classy, and I haven’t heard of anyone shooting or blowing up the RTIC ones.

 

POTUS: bankrupt morally and otherwise

 

I think it would.

 

Trump’s use of the immigration issue is vile and wrong. But it’s been a winner for him before.

 

Trump Blames Violence on Hate Speech—Just Not When the Perpetrators Are White

 

Another case where we agree!

 

The US Supreme Court ruled in 1898 on the meaning of the 14th A language "All persons born … in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens," finding that a child born in the US, whose Chinese parents could not legally become naturalized citizens of the U.S., could not be excluded from citizenship "from the operation of the broad and clear words of the Constitution."

The Court framed the issue by the facts of this case, in which the parents had a permanent domicile and residence in the U.S. The issue of parents in the U.S. illegally was not before the Court. However, the Court did broadly find that someone born within the U.S. was subject to its jurisdiction and, therefore, was a citizen under the Constitution, finding the citizenship of a baby's parents irrelevant. There is a lengthy discussion of the concept of citizenship determined by birth in England and other countries and history of the language of the 14th Amendment. It's a pretty originalist analysis.

In 1982, the Court, in holding Texas could not withhold public education from the children of illegal immigrants, found that whether a child is within the jurisdiction of the U.S. under the 14th A "is not changed by unlawful entry." This case did not address citizenship, but does reaffirm that physical presence within the U.S. is all that's necessary to be "subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S." the only requirement other than birth required for citizenship.

So, SCOTUS has never directly ruled on the issue of citizenship of babies born to persons who are in the U.S. either illegally or solely for the purpose of giving birth within the U.S. However, SCOTUS decisions make clear babies born in both circumstances are citizens. Regardless of the Court's makeup, should Trump issue the executive order or if a Congress passed legislation, I expect such an order or legislation to be found unconstitutional if challenged.