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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member



    Yes. The fact that when she spoke she sounded like a woman speaking certainly justifies a vote for Trump.
     
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  2. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Any good voter studies the candidates. It's not too much to ask.
     
  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    GOP voter in 2012: "Liberals are so damn whiny, always playing the victim."
    GOP voter in 2018: "Donald Trump is such a strong leader."
     
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  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    They did, yes. Because there are social issues on which Democrats have moved so far left that it has turned off people to their candidates. Additionally, there are people who feel like their vote is not welcome in the party.

    The Democrats do not seem to get this. I'm not sure this board gets this.

    Tuesday night, on CNN, Van Jones made a comment along the lines of the Democratic Party getting "younger, browner, cooler, more women, more veterans"

    Nos. 1, 2, 4 and 5 are great. No. 3 has nothing to do with making a better party. The idea that coolness is some dynamic in the Democratic Party is exactly the kind of insider/outsider vibe that many voters reject. Or, more to the point, feel rejects them.
     
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  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The California voter's guide is about 1000 pages. Ballots in many states, especially those with (ugh!) elected judges, can contain over 100 offices and ballot questions. Nobody but nobody can do all that studying. People take shortcuts, and the most available shortcut is party identification.
     
  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Or the Right has moved so far right that the center now looks like the Left to them.
     
  7. melock

    melock Well-Known Member

  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You can’t have it both ways. Voters can’t simultaneously vote for “progressive” measures and be so far right that they don’t know what true center is.

    They know what center is. Initiative voting proves that.

    But the Democratic Party doesn’t come off well. It comes off as run by celebrities, leftists on the coasts - in other words, cool people with money.

    I concede that Trump voters I know are childish about it. Dangerously so. But it’s going to take years to break down the wall of resentment that’s been built here. People feel rejected and unwanted from a party that doesn’t seem to want their vote unless they check off a list of cool.
     
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  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It is true that there is a substantial section of voters who are socially conservative but on economic issues liberal by the Washington definition of the word.
     
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  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Oh ffs.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Link?
     
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