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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Wait until we find out how much is being spent to provide substandard care. It's probably going to make the $13.6 mil to find two employees look quaint.
     
  2. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    "Only Defame & Belittle" is Fucko's calling card.
     
  3. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

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  4. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    My best friend since about sixth grade is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican and, obviously, I'm pretty damn liberal. Never stopped us from bickering and arguing and enjoying being on opposite sides of the aisle. He thinks the President is an abomination, which is a relief to me, but I doubt it would change anything between us if he didn't. If you care for someone, it doesn't matter their political affiliation.

    My most immediate family all enjoy the same political tendencies, so holidays are easy in that respect. At my gay cousin's recent wedding in November, my uncle (a MAGA guy) tried to engage me on politics, but wasn't happy when I shared a different view than him regarding 45. He didn't like my answer to one of his pronunciations of the President's "successes" and straight up turned his back on me. A half-hour later, we were laughing it up and I was thanking him for his service as a Marine in Vietnam. It's family. You don't have to agree on everything. You just love each other for who you are.
     
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  5. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    These "End Is Near For Trump" stories all lack one thing, and it's a pretty big one: reporting that indicates that 20 or more Trumpist Senators are on their way to flipping on their lord and savior.
    It's one thing to say he can't stop the embarrassing revelations or the controversies; it's quite another to say his presidency is imperiled. As long as there are lapdogs in the Senate, he'll stay in office. And unless the Democrats can find a viable candidate under the age of 75, he'll be re-elected.
     
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  6. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That is ... depressingly fair.

    However, with a majority in the House, the President could be impeached and, with his mandate eviscerated, perhaps more Senators would be emboldened to convict, assuming the evidence supports such a conclusion.
     
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  7. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    About that whole "unless they find a viable candidate, he'll be re-elected" thing...

    Arizona just elected a bisexual atheist woman Democrat to the senate over a Trumpist Republican. ARIZONA.

    I mean, I gave Trump zero chance to get elected the first time, so I'm not going to pretend it couldn't happen again. But let's not get too Eeyore about this. The standard for "viable candidate" is likely to be pretty damn low. Maybe pick someone who hasn't spent the previous 16 years as a human punching bag, and this could work out fine.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    This is an embarrassing answer.

    Trump has richly earned criticism on many fronts. And he's earned some criticism on the immigration front, too. But he didn't murder anyone any more than Obama did when he was president. Immigration is far too complex for simpleton responses and treated by many liberals like some pollyannish badge of honor to wear.
     
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  9. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    People are dead because Donald Trump became president.
     
  10. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    I don’t think Biden is likely the right choice. But he can win Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And that’s the ballgame.
     
  11. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    Fun to see Stephen Miller ridiculed for the spray hair. Hopefully it draws more attention to the hideous human he is. Total scumbag.
     
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    It's a weird dynamic. I don't know if it has a name yet -- I'm sure somebody has written about it, and one of you will be along shortly to call me an idiot -- but I'll call it the California Effect.
    Taxes, housing costs and the general cost of living in Democrat strongholds like California and New York have basically priced out a lot of lower- and middle-class residents. At the same time, Republican strongholds like Arizona, Texas, North Carolina and Georgia have become more attractive because of the low cost of living. The people from California (and New York, and Massachusetts, etc.) are flooding into the Republican states, but not quite making the connection on why they're having to do it. So their politics and ideals remain unchanged -- it doesn't help that the Republicans in some of those states are total shitheads -- and the demographics are quickly changing.
    Some years ago there was a movement that was trying to get thousands of like-minded people to move to Wyoming or some other sparsely populated state. The idea was to generate a massive voting bloc that could completely flip a few Congressional seats and electoral votes. I don't think it ever made it past a petition, but it was actually small thinking. General policy in some states is doing the same thing on a much more massive scale in several states.

    There is a blue wave coming, but it wasn't in 2018. It might be a decade out, maybe in 2024 or 2028, once the older generation of Democrats starts retiring or dying off and the Ocasio-Cortezes of the world truly take the reins of power. By then the Democrats will have enough people in those key Republican states I mentioned, enough to flip the electoral college and Congress for a while.
     
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