Professional wrestling thread

RVD and Heyman, on their own merits, can do nothing more than Angle, Sting and Christian have, or what Jericho or Big Show could do. That's why you have to build them an angle so they don't flounder aimlessly.

Here's what you do:

Do a live special and at the end of the show, have them come out (maybe breaking up a match). Let them (mainly Heyman) attack the state of wrestling, first going after WWE for its various sins (sanitized ECW, Great Khali, HHH), then turning on the TNA fans for cheering an inferior copy of WWE. Promise a revolution. Then build from there.

It's a loose and unorganized vision, but that's the jumping off point. But without the right context, you're correct; they can't help TNA if Angle, Sting and Christian couldn't.

 

Meat, great idea. Why don't you call Vince Russo and tell him about it. Better yet, go down to Orlando, superkick Russo right in the mouth, go over to the King of the Mountain and tell him you are running this bitch now ;D

 

Ah the good ole worked shoot... a risky bag, that.

WH: Russo is but a minor player on the TNA creative team. It's Jarrett and Dutch Mantell runnin the show.

 

Well, if that's the case you go to those two. Anyway, what's Dutch Mantell's history?

 

Worked shoots are hard to pull off, and if you use them too much, you get dying days of WCW, and nobody wants that. But Heyman can bring the interview goodness. Plus TNA has been fairly passive about taking shots at WWE (they tried with the James Gang Voodoo Kin Mafia, and that sucked so hard they shoved them into a stupid feud with stupid Christy Hemme). So this wouldn't be a bad opening for them.

I'm not sure who would join this little group, but Samoa Joe would be a pretty obvious choice. He works a unique style and gets ignored and jacked around. He'd be a guy Heyman would pimp. Add a third guy like Senshi or Homicide (LAX might be a hot stable, but he should be doing so much more in TNA), then let them take on all comers.

 

Scratch that, just Wikied him. Says there he used to manage the tag team of Sting and Ultimate Warrior, who were known as the Blade Runners, but it doesn't list a promotion.

 

If I remember correctly, the Blade Runners started in the UWF and then that was bought by Jim Crockett Promotions (the forerunner to WCW) which brought Sting to the NWA.

 

I just noticed this tonight while watching Joe vs. Punk II from ROH.

Have you guys ever seen these two men in the same room together?



Kinda creepy.

 

I just watched RAW. Tivo'd it cause I had to work Monday night. The end of the show seemed kinda forced. They went through the Edge-Kennedy thing really fast. And even still, Cena-Orton only had about 5 minutes. I know they had to do something to get Edge the MITB, but the timing of that whole thing didn't seem right somehow.

Also, I'm disappointed in Carlito. He turned heel, which is good. But he had Torrie right there, chewing her out, apple in hand, and what do we get? Nothing. How do you turn a guy heel whose entire schtick is spitting apple at people, without having him spit apple at the only person in the ring with him at the turn?

 

I'm not complaining. Atleast Carlito is heel now, I hope his character is as badass as it once was. Carlito bitching Torrie out in spanish was a pretty good start.

 

I suspect there's a reason Carlito's heel turn seems so lame. He gets his ass kicked by Flair when he turns on him in the first place, he doesn't spit apple on Torrie, who instead pushes him and leaves on her own accord, he calls out Flair when EVERYONE knows he's not there, so much so that the announcers touch on it.

Theoretical booking: Carlito struggles as a heel, Flair comes back, finds some kid to back like that Santino Morelli guy, they have a match on a Raw or PPV, Flair (shock of shock) turns on Morelli and Carlito wins the IC belt, then it's revealed that THIS was what Flair was trying to teach Carlito. Then they start up a Four Horsemen-style stable, with Orton or HHH as the head and Carlito in the Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard role.

 

Orton, Flair, Carlito, and Johnny Nitro/Melina would be a fine stable...