Professional wrestling thread

Demolition was the biggest and worst ripoff in wrestling history. What a bunch of schmucks that couldn't hold a jock strap to the Road Warriors.

I wouldn't recreate the Horsemen. Russo did it and it stunk. I mean, Steve McMichael? Ugh.

Flair and Funk was nothing compared to Flair-Luger, Windham or any of the others. Flair's feuds with Funk and Steamboat were two of the best of all-time. I wouldn't want to mess with that.

Evolution was HHH's idea of recreating the Horsemen. HHH is an asshole.

 

How about a parody of the Four Horsemen? Call it the Four Horsesh*t: David Arquette, Dennis Rodman, K-Fed and Pacman Jones? Vince Russo would, of course, be the manager.

 

They had a brief run, but I sure marked out when they won the titles off The Hart Foundation on Superstars.

 

Except Ax and Smach could actually work.

 

Ax could work some, but was getting old.

Smash never could work. He just stood there making stupid facial expressions.

And Crush? Don't get me started.

The Road Warriors with blindfolds on were better than Demolition could ever hope to be.

 

I was a fan of Masked Superstar (Bill Eadie, a.k.a. Ax) when I was a youngster. Demolition, not so much.

 

He had a good run in the AWA back in the day. Viva la AWA!!!

 

The problem with putting together a Four Horsemen group nowadays is that the mix back in the day was so perfect. You had Flair as the leader and world title guy, you had Tully as the U.S. belt guy, and then you had the Andersons as the tag team. In other incarnations, you still basically had the same thing -- one guy who was the top guy, another who was the U.S. title guy, and another two who were a tag team with one of them sometimes being the TV title guy (man I loved the TV title -- there were some classics when Arn Anderson, Sting and the Great Muta were going at each other for that belt). And the three guys on the bottom knew their main role was to make sure the world strap stayed on Flair. And when someone got out of line, usually the No. 2 guy (who at different times was Tully, Sting, Luger, etc.), he got beat down by the other three.

That's what would make a lot of combinations impossible. Triple H and Angle couldn't be together except in a perfect world where Trips or Angle one would take a back seat. Neither could Jericho or Edge. You could have one of those guys, but not all four.

So, here's my perfect Horsemen for the WWE and TNA:

WWE:
--Flair as manager, because the Horsemen have to have him if he's available.
--Triple H as the top guy, though I'd love to see JBL pulled out of retirement to be here.
--Orton as the No. 2 guy (Yeah, he'd have to take a step back somewhat, but he'd be perfect here, and it could set up a Trips-Orton feud down the road with Orton ousting HHH or getting tossed out).
--Kennedy, because he'd be awesome and I want to seem him and Orton tagging more. Two guys who dismantle their opponents, a lot like the Andersons used to. They'd be awesome together.
--Either Shelton Benjamin or Carlito.

TNA:
-- Christian Cage at the top. He's not Flair, but he's great on the mic and in the ring and he's awesome with a stable.
-- A.J. Styles as the second guy, which he pretty much is in Christian's Coalition, but stop having him job so much. It's a waste of his talent.
-- Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley. This would leave the team without a big muscle guy, which they usually had a bigger guy (Ole, Luger, Wyndham). Maybe leave out Shelley and keep Tomko, but Shelley's better in the ring. This'd make for a cool lineup but could be used for too many cheap laughs instead of making them a dangerous stable like the Horsemen should be, so maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a bigger enforcer-type to keep them dangerous. Matt Morgan would actually be kind of cool in that role, just a big guy who doesn't do much other than beat people up and look dangerous.

 

Agreed, but take out HHH and put in Bobby Lashley as the stoic enforcer. Orton should be the top guy, along with Lashley, Kennedy, and Shelton.

 

The TNA combination is spot on. The WWE I'd go with HHH, Kennedy and an established no-nonsense tag team (Cade/Murdoch) in the Anderson vein. There has to be enough separation between the No. 1 and No. 2 singles that it looks logical for No. 2 to play the role of protector, eventually evolving into a threat. Orton/Kennedy are too close to each other.

The other thing that occured to me reading the thread yesterday is that there's really no Ric Flair character out there. Orton is cocky, but not a Flair-sytle cocky. Edge has more, well, edge. HHH is too independent. The ideal Horseman leader thinks he's above it all, is rich without being spoiled (DiBiase, early HHH), a jet-setter and a ladies' man who commands loyaltly. Right now nobody really fits that bill very well.

 

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Sheesh. :

 

I've heard about this for a few months, and of all the people in the world who should not be advocating for a finance company, it's Ric Flair. He's gotten into multiple major issues with the IRS (he tells a story about how he had to basically sell 10 percent shares of his earnings to Jim Crockett and a couple of NWA heavy-hitters to get out of a seven-figure tax bill, and McMahon had to bail him out of a $400,000 bill right as he was starting in the WWF. Plus he got drilled in a divorce recently and probably has had more tax issues that. I'm thinking of a number between 450 and 850, and in Flair's case it's probably 450.03.

So yes, by all means, let's rely on financial advice from a company that bears his name. First let me drop my kid off at Pat Ramsey's day care center.