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R.I.P. Tupac Amaru Shakur

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Still a Bulls fan, Sep 13, 2006.

  1. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    Nobody is calling him a hero.
     
  2. Terd Ferguson

    Terd Ferguson Member

    Just heard 'My Block'. Damn.

    Anybody know what album that appeared on? I'm talking remix version with the kids chorus.

    God bless XM 65.


    P.S. I'm not calling him a hero. I just think he was a hell of an artist.
    Would we have to endure this shit if we were having a Woodie Guthrie or John Lennon or Jimi Hendrix or Buddy Holly or Hank Williams circle jerk?
    Let us enjoy it in peace.
     
  3. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    JOHN LENNON IS NOT A HERO! HOW DARE YOU HOLD HIM UP FOR DEIFICATION! THE BALLS!
     
  4. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well played, IJAG. :D
     
  5. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    After all, he did have sex with a non-white woman. The mixing of the races! Oh, the humanity!
     
  6. PaseanaARG

    PaseanaARG Guest

    What about Earth, Wind & Fire?
     
  7. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    2pac was very lyrically gifted, not unlike NaS and maybe even Eminem.

    Here's a great verse from "Keep Ya Head Up" :

    You know it makes me unhappy (what's that)
    When brothas make babies, and leave a young mother to be a pappy
    And since we all came from a woman
    Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
    I wonder why we take from our women
    Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
    I think it's time to kill for our women
    Time to heal our women, be real to our women
    And if we don't we'll have a race of babies
    That will hate the ladies, that make the babies
    And since a man can't make one
    He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one
    So will the real men get up?
    I know you're fed up ladies, but keep your head up
     
  8. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Sorry. I judge folks by their character and their actions. Not their ability to write songs.
     
  9. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    You'd take some shit from me on that one...

    I hope everyone will forgive me for thinking that some of the naysayers on this thread can't get past Tupac's pigmentation.

    Because no one has called the man a saint or a hero, or anything else even close.

    If anything, there's the wistful tone of people who know how flawed he was, and feel a little bad about how much they enjoyed him anyway.

    Maybe that's why people like All Eyez on Me, come to think of it. It embodies the persona, big, brawling, complicated, crappy at points, brilliant at others, too clever by half, etc.

    Though I agree with whoever posted that they thought Me Against the World was his best, especially lyrically.
     
  10. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Who mentioned the color of his skin, besides you?
     
  11. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    And again, no one's judging him.

    Us praising his lyrics, or saying we liked his songs, is no different from anyone on here posting a Posnanski column, or a Plaschke piece, and saying they liked it. Posting turns of phrase in stories that they liked. Talking about Gary Smith.

    Doesn't mean we're commenting on them as people. We're commenting on the job they did. And Tupac did a helluva job.
     
  12. Terd Ferguson

    Terd Ferguson Member

    What about their ability to write, period? Do Hemmingway and Poe get roundly dismissed because they weren't church deacons and Rotary Club members?
     
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