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Rhoden: Don't fire Randolph for Mets' collapse, etc.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by RokSki, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. Yes, but the overarching point is not to fire a guy who made the playoffs one year and just missed on a monumental screw-up the next because the next guy always can be very much worse.
     
  2. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    You do realize a black woman brought the charges against Isaiah and the crew, right, dope?
     
  3. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Again, Rok, show me one point in that column where Rhoden goes overboard in defense of Randolph and show me where he even mentions race.

    You, as usual, have made this about race.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It's already been well documented on SJ how Rhoden turns everything into a race issue. If you want we can go column by column.

    I look forward to Rhoden's next colum when he call on The Garden to terminate Thomas.
     
  5. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Please begin with the column under discussion.
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    And, again, show me where Rhoden goes out of his way to defend Randolph and where there is even the slightest hint of racial overtone to this column.

    Two other columnists, Mike Vaccaro and Ian O'Connor, wrote last week that Willie deserved his share of the balme for the Mets collapse, but he shouldn't be fired...basically what Rhoden said. I didn't see our resident racists screaming about them defending the black guy.

    And Boom, I seem to recall a few years back when all you did was start threads that Willie deserved to be a manager, Willie's Time Has Come was one of your favorite repetitive posts. So now, Rhoden's lukewarm defense of him is a racial issue?

    So what's it like to be a hypocrite, a racist and an asshole?
     
  7. boots

    boots New Member

    Spnited, the problem that the resident racists have is that Rhoiden is on an international stage. He says something and it gets people's attention.
    Race hasnothing to do with this. Willie didn't not lose the division lead by himself. It was a total group effort.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Stilly a little touchy about the Mets blowing it I see. As far as this Rhoden column show me where I said specificaly that it was race related?

    To set record straigth yes I did say that Willie's time had come. I also recall at that time that you were vehimently opposed to the Mets hiring Willie. You never really said why but to most it seemed like your reasoning was based on race.

    Just to be clear I agree with Rhoden - Willie should not be fired. In his time in Flushing Willie has done a great job.
     
  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    You complaining about one-trick ponies is the ultimate chutzpah. And it's interesting, all things considered, that you would be into stereotyping and scapegoating, considering who else was into that.
     
  10. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    My opposition to Willie was that I didn't think he had the temperment and I knew he didn't have the experience to be a good manager.
    He was fine last year as long as things were going well... he has yet to show that he can help a team out of a bad stretch...he has yet to show that he can handle a bullpen properly -- especially a short bullpen .. he has yet to figure out after 3 years of managing the the NL when to double switch.
    At no point have I raised the subject of Willie being a black manager.. to me, he's just not a good manager.

    But, as Willie kept saying as the season was collapsing around him "it is what it is," and what it is is Willie just isn't a good manager.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    You did not have to be direct. Your coded tone made it clear that you did not want Willie as met mgr because he is black. Some of the things you wrote would make Al Campanis blush.
     
  12. I feel like I've stepped into Bizarro World.
     
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