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Rhoden: Don't fire Randolph for Mets' collapse, etc.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by RokSki, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Looks like right about here ...

     
  2. boots

    boots New Member

    Cried wolf? Race Card? Give it a break. The man perceives something racist and he speaks on it. I'd like to know what is a race card? I play all kinds of card games and have never seen one.
    And as far as implications go, stop trying to analyze every word or try to find some "hidden" meaning. Bill shoots straight. If he says something is racist, nine times out of 10, he has a point.
    What people don't like on this web site, in my opinion, is that black man, with journalism power and influence, is telling white America that there continues to be a race problem in sports and other areas.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    As Ben said about 50 % of Rhoden columns are race related. I would agree with that number. I would also agree that said Randolph column is not race related although I could easily see how Rhoden's intentions could be misconstrued.

    Lets do a quick review of some of Rhoden's more outrageous theories :

    1) Ohio State treatment of Maurice Clarett was race related
    2) Tyrone Willingham was run out of ND because of his skin color
    3) Michael Vick is being mistreated by the NFL
    4) The NBA is drafting foreign players because they no longer want African Americans
    5) Black QB's are still not accepted in the NFL on 2007 ( See Vick/Mcnabb)

    If Rhoden wants to put out what I would term race race bating theories he has every right. But just the same we have every right as readers to questions his ideas and intentions.

    I am still waiting for his column on the dirth of white cornerbacks in the NFL.
     
  4. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    While I don't exactly agree with Boom on Tyrone Willingham, his other four examples are spot on. He has used "race" and "racism" so many times in the past when it didn't apply that when he doesn't mean to imply it, many people feel he's using it.
     
  5. boots

    boots New Member

    I don't need a review of his columns. But thank you anyway. Bill shoots straight. If he says something is racist, nine times out of 10, he has a point.
    What people don't like on this web site, in my opinion, is that black man, with journalism power and influence, is telling white America that there continues to be a race problem in sports and other areas.
    That pretty much breaks the situation down to what it is.
    Stop trying to "read into" a column. Bill gives his view. You have yours.
    But what is this race card? I have yet to hear the answer to that one.
     
  6. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    You are entitled to your opinion. Stop telling me what to do with mine.
     
  7. boots

    boots New Member

    I didn't. I just asked for you or anyone else to tell me what is this race card. I play cards regularly and have never seen one.
     
  8. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    We've moved from "everything" to "50 %". Progress!
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Acceptance Still Lags for Black Quarterbacks
    By WILLIAM C. RHODEN
    Published: January 7, 2007
    Glendale, Ariz.


    Ohio State’s Troy Smith and Florida’s Chris Leak do not know each other. They have seen each other in passing, have exchanged hellos, but they do not really know each other.

    “I’ve just followed him and what he’s accomplished through the years,” Leak said Friday when asked about Smith during media day for the Bowl Championship Series national title game. “Just watching him maturing as a quarterback, what he’s been able to accomplish, winning the Heisman Trophy. He’s had a great career.”

    Leak and Smith will be central players in the continuing evolution at the quarterback position. Tomorrow night’s championship game will be the first time in B.C.S. history, and only the second time in the history of the Associated Press poll, that black starting quarterbacks have met in a game involving the No. 1 and No. 2 teams. In the 1994 Orange Bowl, Charlie Ward’s Florida State defeated Tommie Frazier’s Nebraska.



    Earlier in the season, Smith told reporters that he felt the African-American quarterback angle was a dead issue. “We’re way beyond it,” he said. “It’s not significant at all with quarterbacks. That’s a moot point. We should stay away from that.”

    He added: “I don’t see color, I see people in any situation. I disliked it so much when they said Warren Moon was the first African-American quarterback inducted into the Hall of Fame. He’s a quarterback. I didn’t appreciate that.”


    With all due respect to Smith, the Buckeyes’ senior quarterback, if you respect Moon, you must appreciate the arduous path that took him from Los Angeles to Edmonton to Houston to Canton. Moon helped clear the way for Smith to flourish in Columbus and for Leak to survive in Gainesville. Someone cleared the path for Moon, and earlier generations cleared a path for that pioneer.

    There was a time when African-Americans were not allowed to play the game at all, and once allowed in were largely blocked from playing quarterback. The deeply entrenched stereotypes held that African-Americans could not think under pressure, lacked courage, lacked leadership skills.

    Tomorrow night’s national championship game is a milestone that should be celebrated, not shunned, embraced as yet another marker of progress and triumph in the meandering history of race and sport in America. Never forget the history.

    We are not talking ancient history. Michael Vick, possibly the most dynamic player to set foot under center, continues to be ridiculed. Last year at this time, legions of Vince Young’s critics said he lacked the necessities, the mechanics; some even suggested he might be a better receiver or running back. Young was recently named the offensive rookie of the year in the N.F.L.

    Louisiana State’s JaMarcus Russell turned in a dominating performance in the Sugar Bowl, a game in which the announcers were singing the praises of Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn while soft-pedaling Russell. When it became clear that Russell was going to lead L.S.U. to a rout, they changed their tune.

    Leak watched some of the game and heard the broadcast. “That’s the world we live in,” he said.

    Leak and Smith represent a historical threshold of African-Americans playing quarterback. The writer Malcolm Gladwell might call them the sports equivalent of “The Tipping Point.” Today, having a quarterback who moves, and moves with speed and purpose, is not a luxury, and that is the essence of the revolution at quarterback. On Friday, Florida Coach Urban Meyer talked about his requisites for the position, which were the ability to get out of trouble and to turn a bad play into a big play.

    It is fascinating to observe how tenaciously so many in the news media cling to the old standard of quarterback, as if it were the last preserve of culture and civilization.

    Will the quarterback position become as Africanized as, say, the defensive secondary or the receiving corps in the N.F.L.?

    The Eagles’ Donovan McNabb expressed his doubts in a recent interview, saying: “I don’t think so. A lot of organizations — they may not say it — but that’s not what they want. I don’t know if they really want a true leader, an African-American, to be the face of their team.

    “They’re billionaires. It’s all about making money. So they won’t have an African-American quarterback be the face of their team.”

    During an interview in Jacksonville earlier this season, Byron Leftwich of the Jaguars said: “I think it all depends on how much the quarterback position changes. If you can still win by throwing the ball in the pocket, no. But if the game changes, where that man behind the center has got to be able to run around in order to win, then I think you’ll see that change, because that’s just what’s going to happen.”
     
  10. boots

    boots New Member

    OK that's nice. you like reading his stories and copying them. Great.
    Now, what is this race card?
     
  11. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    And all those white columnists who supported Charlie Weis over Willingham? Race-baiters!
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    support is fine but suggesting it is race related takes it to a different level.

    How come Rhoden didn't just stop at idea that Willingham was just a better coach?
     
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