RIP Amy Winehouse

This is what is stupid -- implying that only stupid people become users. Some of the most brilliant people in the world can't escape addiction. Smart has NOTHING to do with it.

 

Thank you. Well said.

That, too.

Gallows humor is one thing. Some of the rest of this is... Horrid.

 

of course it doesn't. and mister creole, only speaking for myself, i never said it 'won't be a big deal' when an addict dies. it's an invidual case by case, for me, anyway. if you or any addict has been strong enough to make a 'recovery' that eventually sticks and you've led an otherwise productive life, no doubt it will be a VERY big deal when you go, especially for loved ones. but if another addict, such as amy, passes waaay too young due to her addiction, and it's curtailed her career productivity, it's going to be easy for non-fans or loved ones to shrug it off as, 'whatta surprise! who woulda thought?' and not consider it a tragedy.

doesn't mean others won't consider it a tragedy and miss her and her art dearly. just me. and obviously some others here. but shrugging off one instance of it being no big whoop personally doesn't mean it covers every instance.

and i surely pray you and others stay on the drug-free path and it's never again an issue. i'd surely hate to blanket any example of anything and think i'll feel the same about every instance.

play it as it goes, size things up, decide for yourself. what more is there to do? (i'm growing tired; hope i'm still making a semblance of sense -- at least to those who agree i've been making any sense all along.

 

Shockey - I can handle your even-handed lack of sympathy. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it comes from a place I can understand.

I don't understand what, in all honesty, almost seems to be glee from some people over her death, as if it somehow elevates them. Some called it the Church Lady Superior Dance earlier. That was apt.

 

I don't know if it's glee, Dick.

Three weeks ago, I was driving to work when I saw an SUV ahead of me passing cars on the right-hand shoulder and swerving from right shoulder to left shoulder. Knew right away what was going on, and what was going to happen.

It took about two miles. He swerved directly into a concrete construction barrier, sheared off the right side of his car. And sat there in the left side of the car as I passed, totally uninjured and just kind of puzzled about why his car had stopped.

I felt no delight, but I didn't feel a lot of empathy, either.

 

If there is one thing we can count on consistently at SJ, perhaps above all other things, it's macho posturing and tsk-tsk finger waging.

 

Funny. I've tried to tell you the same thing many times.

 

Using drugs is stupid. Does that mean everyone who does them is stupid? No. Sometimes intelligent people do really stupid things.

 

Never said it isn't sad, just that when I think of something as tragic, I think of something that the person could not avoid.

 

You mean like pursuing this debate.

 

And some people handle horrible experiences without using drugs.

 

Oop, this may not apply to you because it's obvious from your statements that you live an incredibly sheltered life. By choice or circumstance. But most people are exposed to others -- through work, through play, sometimes even at home -- who struggle with any number of issues that those around them do not know about or fathom the extent. I can almost guarantee there are people in your life as it is constituted, people whom you respect, maybe even love, that are dealing with things such as addiction. Life is complicated because people are. To frame one's existence in such black-and-white terms, to refuse to acknowledge the complexity of human thought and feeling, is arrogant and ignorant.