RIP Art Modell

Drip · Sep 7, 2012

YankeeFan said:

Drip said:

For the last time, WE DID NOT KNOW MR. MODELL PICKED UP THE TAB UNTIL WE ASKED FOR THE CHECK AND WERE TOLD BY THE WAITER TO ORDER MORE DRINKS COURTESY OF MR. MODELL.
At that point, there really wasn't much we could do. The meal had been paid for. I guess we could've regurgitated but would've left a mess.
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There's plenty you could have done.

You could have explained to the GM that ethically, you're unable to accept a gift from Mr. Modell. You could have asked him to reverse the charges on Mr. Modell's card, and to please charge your group as planned.

Failing that, you could have mailed Mr. Modell a check for your portion of the meal (even though he probably would not have deposited it).

At the very least, you could have avoided the tackiness of ordering additional drinks & wine (which, basically means they hadn't run the credit card, btw, so you did have time to straighten it out).

And, I'm sure Modell was cordial to you every time he saw you after that. He knew your price. He probably chuckled to himself every time.
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When you were treated to that Big Mac, did you tell the cashier to reverse the charges? Oh and BTW, my memory fades on this, but I think this was a restaurant that he had a running tab with so there wasn't any credit cards used.

Drip · Sep 7, 2012

Chef2 said:

Drip said:

proudpittsburgher said:

Azrael said:

Drip said:

There was nothing unethical about it. The guy showed Cleveland hospitality and brought a group of writers a meal with drinks.
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At my little hometown paper, the policy is no gifts. Especially from people we cover.
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As it should be everywhere. It's not about what each individual gift means, because the vast majority of them mean little more than just a nice gesture from someone who can afford it, but it's how it looks, or can look, to the outsider. No good can come from it.
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For the last time, WE DID NOT KNOW MR. MODELL PICKED UP THE TAB UNTIL WE ASKED FOR THE CHECK AND WERE TOLD BY THE WAITER TO ORDER MORE DRINKS COURTESY OF MR. MODELL.
At that point, there really wasn't much we could do. The meal had been paid for. I guess we could've regurgitated but would've left a mess.
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You could left the waiter a handsome tip, said Thank You, and went on your way. The waiter was not pointing a 9mm and telling you "Mr. Modell says you're not going anywhere yet."
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Apparently you did not read an earlier response. The waiter received a great tip.

JosephC.Myers · Sep 7, 2012

I read the article on Yahoo! Sports talking about how Modell was even more hated in Cleveland than LeBron James. The way he did Cleveland was wrong, but I am glad they got a franchise back.

Stoney · Sep 7, 2012

JosephC.Myers said:

I read the article on Yahoo! Sports talking about how Modell was even more hated in Cleveland than LeBron James.
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I'd think one would have to be plenty young to even question this. Yeah, considerably more. The Cavs have never approached what the Browns meant to Cleveland back then. And, for whatever reason, doesn't seem like the new version of the Browns have come close to recapturing it either.

Drip · Sep 7, 2012

Bubbler said:

During my first year on my current beat, I did a feature where I embedded myself with the team for an entire day. Was there for coaches' meetings, practice, etc.

When we went out to lunch, the head coach offered to buy it for me. I kindly refused.

"Why?" he said, somewhat taken aback.
"Not to pull the rulebook out on you, but that's not OK in my profession. Ethics, etc.," I said.
"Meh. No one is ever going to know but you and me," he retorted.
"I'll know," I said.

He kind of half-smiled and said OK.
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And that was the proper thing to do.

3OctaveFart · Sep 7, 2012

Once again a good topic of discussion turns into one of pure crap.

JosephC.Myers · Sep 7, 2012

Stoney said:

JosephC.Myers said:

I read the article on Yahoo! Sports talking about how Modell was even more hated in Cleveland than LeBron James.
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I'd think one would have to be plenty young to even question this. Yeah, considerably more. The Cavs have never approached what the Browns meant to Cleveland back then. And, for whatever reason, doesn't seem like the new version of the Browns have come close to recapturing it either.
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It's because they're not the "real" Browns. The "real" Browns are in Baltimore.

3OctaveFart · Sep 7, 2012

Art was afraid to go to games back in Cleveland, even years after the move.

Drip · Sep 7, 2012

3OctaveFart said:

Art was afraid to go to games back in Cleveland, even years after the move.
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You couldn't blame him. There were plenty of people who wanted to hurt him.

JosephC.Myers · Sep 7, 2012

Drip said:

3OctaveFart said:

Art was afraid to go to games back in Cleveland, even years after the move.
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You couldn't blame him. There were plenty of people who wanted to hurt him.
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They'd better not publicize where the funeral will be or he'll be interred, as there will be plenty of Browns fans who'll want to do things to his remains.

heyabbott · Sep 7, 2012

The Big Ragu said:

Bubbler said:

During my first year on my current beat, I did a feature where I embedded myself with the team for an entire day. Was there for coaches' meetings, practice, etc.

When we went out to lunch, the head coach offered to buy it for me. I kindly refused.

"Why?" he said, somewhat taken aback.
"Not to pull the rulebook out on you, but that's not OK in my profession. Ethics, etc.," I said.
"Meh. No one is ever going to know but you and me," he retorted.
"I'll know," I said.

He kind of half-smiled and said OK.
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Did Art Modell pop in and pick up the check for both of you?
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the newspaper I subscribe to wouldn't let me quit, they gave me a 185 consecutive days newspapers for the cost of less than 26 as long they are allowed to keep me as a 7 day a week subscriber for their ad sales.

I promised to respect them every morning

dixiehack · Sep 7, 2012

heyabbott said:

the newspaper I subscribe to wouldn't let me quit, they gave me a 185 consecutive days newspapers for the cost of less than 26 as long they are allowed to keep me as a 7 day a week subscriber for their ad sales.

I promised to respect them every morning
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They learned that from playing freshman football.

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