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RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I think that would be a fair guess. Or else they underestimate them or do not grasp the nature of physical addiction/chemical dependence.
     
  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Insomuch as a lot of addicts don't believe they're actually addicted, you're right.

    But no one does it because they think it's good for them. They know it's unhealthy.

    They know the horror stories about withdrawal. They just think it doesn't apply to them.
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Dick, have you ever had a beer?
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    For a very long time, nobody thought cocaine was addictive or harmful.

    Also, prescription painkillers are at the root of this, and those come with a doctor's blessing so how can they be bad?
     
  5. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Do you consider your use of this site behaviorally addictive, Dick?
     
  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Yeah, doctors would never lead us astray.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I think in many cases, it is the latter. They just don't realize how powerful the addiction will be. They assume they are too strong to fall victim to it.

    It also depends on what addiction we are talking to. How old are people the first time they try heroin or cocaine? I honestly don't know. Something like tobacco? They tend to start VERY young. My father was 12 when he smoked his first cigarette and 52 or 53 when he smoked his last (not long before he died from lung cancer). My brother was 12 or 13 when he started and I don't think either of them was that far off from the norm. In my father's case, it was so long ago that he didn't really know how bad they were for him. My brother didn't have that excuse, but no way in hell was he old enough to truly grasp what he was getting into.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    To answer the glass house questions:

    Yes, I have failings.

    Many failings.
     
  9. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Some people are addicted to posting here.

    Has this been mentioned yet?
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying that addiction is necessarily a disease and a moral failing. I'm just saying it can be both. I think it's silly semantics to try to tag it all of one or all of the other.

    Bottom line: Chemical dependence is real. It's serious shit. And people caught in its grip, as fellow humans, deserve our sympathy and our assistance, not our judgment.
     
  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    ... in 700 words.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/700-words-that-explain-exactly-what-it-feels-like-to-do-hero
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Now here's an interesting tangent -- David Bar Katz, the playwright and friend who found Hoffman, sues the National Enquirer for $50 million over its story that the two were lovers and that he had seen Hoffman doing drugs. Weirdly enough, the article said that info came from an interview with Katz.

    http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=850951
     
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