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RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Even the junkiest junkies I know/knew/watch/watched kept it to a pack at a time so that gorilla is heavy if you're doing 2 at a time or, one right after the other.

     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Does that kind of dosage suggest suicide?

    Also, don't addicts have to be really careful about using pain medication of any kind? Doctors and addicts know there's a potential for dependency on them.

    I don't say this to judge, but it just sounds odd to say that a reliance to pain medication led him on a path back to heroin. Like there's something missing from the story.
     
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    If only there was a surgery that addicts could get like the lazy obese to solve their problems.

    Obesity a complicated issue. Drug addict just a loser who makes bad choices. Does that sum it up WT?
     
  4. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Totally agree. Also especially enjoyed his role in Charlie Wilson's War. Never really could connect with his portrayal of Art Howe in Moneyball, though. Didn't look like Howe at all and wasn't depicted accurately, either, but I'll place that blame on the screenwriters.

    I was stunned to learn news of his death. I, too, thought he was older. Just sad he could not beat his disease.

    RIP.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No. It makes complete sense. Opiates, man.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's how I felt about Gandolfini and food, am I right?
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    But, isn't that why a doctor wouldn't prescribe someone like him pain killers?
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    How would a doctor know? And who said they were prescribed by a doctor and not given or sold to him by a friend?
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Well, sure, if the doctor doesn't know his history, or he doesn't share it with him, there's the possibility. Or, if he got them through other means.

    But, one of the stories I read made it sound like it was "one of things" where he had a legitimate need for pain killers, and it sadly led back to heroin.

    And, that telling makes it sound like a sad accident. (And, it is sad, and addiction is a bitch. I get that.) But, if Hoffman actively sought pain killers, or wasn't honest with a doctor, that changes the story a little bit. That means that his relapse was when he first started to take the pain killers, not when he moved on to heroin.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I don't think there's any question that the relapse began with the painkillers.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What was he using pain killers for?

    It makes total sense to me. Supposedly, he hadn't used in more than a decade, right? Couldn't he have said, "Eh, I'm sure I can handle it now."
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Depending on the story he was clean anywhere from 10 to 23 years. But how does anyone really know?

    Easy to hide the secret life.
     
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