Rob Parker controversy

shotglass · Dec 29, 2008

mustangj17 said:

Both are from a blog! Say what you will about it not being credible, but the blog goes into detail with the Kirk Cousins situation.
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Is this a situation where somebody feels blogging is immune from the same safeguards as print journalism? I honestly believe you have that thought process out there.

mustangj17 · Dec 29, 2008

Drip said:

Moderator1 said:

He represents your paper.
He's now embarassed that paper at least twice by not being able to control his mouth.
I don't think there's a question about the "where." The paper is his place of employment. All my guys knew when they went on radio they were representing the paper.
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Correction, Rob was paid by the station so the paper wasn't his "place of employment."
In short, he has two jobs. So, again, where do you fire him? From the paper or from the TV gig?
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If I go on television and make a fool of myself doesn't that reflect poorly on my employer. If said employer is in the media doesn't that warrant a firing?

Drip · Dec 29, 2008

mustangj17 said:

Through some searching I also found these things on the interwebs about stuff Parker has done.

1. He claimed MSU Sophomore Paul Davis was a done deal to the NBA and that Coach Izzo had been told. Davis' dad came out and refuted this saying none of that was true. Davis went on to play 4 years at MSU.

2. Again, another issue with the MSU basketball program. Brandon Cotton, a player who had transferred out of MSU to University of Detroit was given an outright release. Rob Parker claimed that Izzo didn't sign the requisite papers because he was bitter at him leaving and Cotton would not get an extra year of eligibility. The story turned out to be completely false and Cotton played till the end of his eligibility.

Both are from a blog! Say what you will about it not being credible, but the blog goes into detail with the Kirk Cousins situation.

Parker said he had three anonymous sources indicating Cousins was "a big part" of the fight involving MSU players. However, Cousins' stayed at the hotel with his parents who were in town — because the game was a late start — 3:30 p.m. Cousins' dad said they spent the night together, went to church the next morning and then to lunch. He wasn't even at the party.

So we have two options.

1. Parker is relying on terrible sources who are either incredibly misinformed or just lying.
2. He made the stuff up.

Neither one is good. Couple that with the Marinelli presser slip-up and all the other things. Again, a huge mess.
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Any good reporter know NEVER to take whatever a source says as the absolute truth. That's journalism 101 and it would appear that Rob forgot that lesson, which may partly explain why w'ere talking about him today.

Moderator1 · Dec 29, 2008

That's a pretty big body of evidence being presented. Can any of his defenders refute any of it? And a "blog" represents the paper just as much as anything else. Same rules of responsibility, fairness, accuracy apply.

If what has been said since my original post is true, I don't see how there's any decision to be made other than you know what.

Drip, the paper is where he made his name. It is where people know him, it is why people know him and he is representing that paper at all times regardless of who is paying him. I had a radio show. Paid for by the station. I was representing the paper and, if I went off half-cocked, I would have been bounced in a heartbeat. As I should have been.

The guy, you claim, is a friend. You can't be objective.

Drip · Dec 29, 2008

mustangj17 said:

Drip said:

Moderator1 said:

He represents your paper.
He's now embarassed that paper at least twice by not being able to control his mouth.
I don't think there's a question about the "where." The paper is his place of employment. All my guys knew when they went on radio they were representing the paper.
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Correction, Rob was paid by the station so the paper wasn't his "place of employment."
In short, he has two jobs. So, again, where do you fire him? From the paper or from the TV gig?
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If I go on television and make a fool of myself doesn't that reflect poorly on my employer. If said employer is in the media doesn't that warrant a firing?
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We're talking about two different beasts. If he made an error on one job, that has nothing to do with the other.
It's like you're making a Big Mac at your job at Wendy's and your other gig is at McDonald's.
I see your point but I hope that you will see mine too.

slappy4428 · Dec 29, 2008

Moderator1 said:

That's a pretty big body of evidence being presented. Can any of his defenders refute any of it? And a "blog" represents the paper just as much as anything else. Same rules of responsibility, fairness, accuracy apply.

If what has been said since my original post is true, I don't see how there's any decision to be made other than you know what.

Drip, the paper is where he made his name. It is where people know him, it is why people know him and he is representing that paper at all times regardless of who is paying him. I had a radio show. Paid for by the station. I was representing the paper and, if I went off half-cocked, I would have been bounced in a heartbeat. As I should have been.

The guy, you claim, is a friend. You can't be objective.
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Ding-Dong --- We have a winner.... solidly objective, Moddy....

hockeybeat · Dec 29, 2008

When he goes on TV--and I don't know, because I'm not in Detroit--does the station refer to him as "Detroit News columnist Rob Parker"? Because if it does, even if he pulls a check in from the station, Parker is still representing the newspaper.

Drip · Dec 29, 2008

Moderator1 said:

That's a pretty big body of evidence being presented. Can any of his defenders refute any of it? And a "blog" represents the paper just as much as anything else. Same rules of responsibility, fairness, accuracy apply.

If what has been said since my original post is true, I don't see how there's any decision to be made other than you know what.

Drip, the paper is where he made his name. It is where people know him, it is why people know him and he is representing that paper at all times regardless of who is paying him. I had a radio show. Paid for by the station. I was representing the paper and, if I went off half-cocked, I would have been bounced in a heartbeat. As I should have been.

The guy, you claim, is a friend. You can't be objective.
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I am objective. I also know thatits a case where a guy has two gigs.
If I use you way of thinking, let's suppose you were working at McDonald's while you were an SE. You screwed up and got fired from McDonald's. Does that mean you should also be fired from the paper as well because of something that happened while you were not at the paper?

Moderator1 · Dec 29, 2008

He represents his paper at all time.
You get busted for a fight in a bar, you're not on the job right? They can't fire you right? You're not at work right?
Try it some time and see what happens.

Moderator1 · Dec 29, 2008

Drip, you amaze me.
You do not become a public figure, a face, a voice, working at McDonald's.

You have a columnist's job, you are the face and voice of your section. No matter what you are doing.
Apples-Apples and all that.

Why did he get that radio/TV/whatever gig? Because he's ROB PARKER FROM THE PAPER.
Jesus, it ain't that hard.

slappy4428 · Dec 29, 2008

Not applicable... Parker wasn't working at McDonalds, he was representing himsely as a media member with another media.
If Moddy was working at McDonald's and screamed at a customer saying "I'm the SE at the local paper and I'll fix you" or something else that he pulled out his other job as leverage, directly or implied, then yeah, he should go.

Drip · Dec 29, 2008

hockeybeat said:

When he goes on TV--and I don't know, because I'm not in Detroit--does the station refer to him as "Detroit News columnist Rob Parker"? Because if it does, even if he pulls a check in from the station, Parker is still representing the newspaper.
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In that instance, yes he is representing the paper and I fully understand where Moddy is coming from.

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