Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

Under a bill they promoted, pregnant people could face murder charges even if they were raped or doctors determined the procedure was needed to save their own life. Doctors who attempted to help patients conceive through in-vitro fertilization, a fertility treatment used by millions of Americans, could also be locked up for destroying embryos, and certain contraception such as Plan B would be banned.


“The taking of a life is murder, and it is illegal,” state Rep. Danny McCormick told a committee of state lawmakers who considered the bill in May, right after the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked.


“No compromises, no more waiting,” Brian Gunter, the pastor who suggested McCormick be the one to introduce the legislation, told the committee.

 

"However, if on January 6th," McCormick said, "the tourists there had in fact hanged Mike Pence, well, then, that would have been justified, and thus not technically murder."

 

It will be interesting to see if a state's laws impact college enrollment, particularly from out of staters.

Waiting for a GameDay sign that says - "Mom, send rubbers"

 

Capital Punishment? Please explain how you reconcile your thoughts.

 

It's about controlling women. Full stop.

University of Idaho says staff can offer condoms for STDs – not birth control

 

Re: the University of Idaho bit ... The reactions are about reacting. Full stop.

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/09/27/the-university-of-idaho-on-abortion/#more-8205185

 

Now this having been said, I entirely appreciate the importance of caution here. The University of Idaho may well want to advise faculty members that the statute might be interpreted more broadly than I suggest, and faculty members may well be concerned that it might be interpreted broadly. And the Legislature can be faulted for that sort of "chilling effect," which is a foreseeable consequence of vague statutes.

So the U can offer condoms - "for the prevention of STDs" - unreliable and to be worn entirely at the discretion of young men, but not birth control?

Seems fair.

University of Idaho releases memo warning employees that promoting abortion is against state law - Idaho Capital Sun

“The language of this statute is not a model of clarity,” the memo said. “… Since violation is considered a felony, we are advising a conservative approach here, that the university not provide standard birth control itself.”

 

*Beyond/outside of "student health facilities," it would seem.

 

Funny though, how every change in reproductive law burdens women, never men.

 

Several ... perhaps "many" (time flies) ... years ago I had a 30-ish Hispanic woman in one of my classes. She was pretty, dressed nicely, was attentive in class ... she stood out from the usual horde of pajama bottoms and hoodies and baseball caps and ponytails and affected ennui. I was surprised to see her at my office door one day, and after she sat down her face sort of cracked and she told me that she was pregnant and that her husband had walked out on her and her two girls a few days before. I have no idea why she came to me, and I had no idea what to tell her other than the standard-issue "Here's the phone number of the student crisis center, etc." I did tell her I'd do what I could to help her get through the class. After she left I reached out to that center and told them to look out for her. I also let them know I had (still have, actually) some connections with some crisis charities in Fort Worth and that if they felt it appropriate I would put her on those charities' radar.

All of this is to say that I think it's a good thing that your garden-variety University of Idaho employee is prohibited from doling out family-planning advice. They have specialized services for that sort of thing. I didn't need a law to keep me from doing that, but then again at a minimum I've got the sense God gave a turnip.

P.S. The story, at least so far as I know, had a happy ending.

 

I hope she's well and her children are thriving.

And I don't disagree that the knuckleheads in the teachers' lounge be restrained from giving reproductive advice. Common sense.

But in the current climate, and with more and more draconian measures being weighed by state legislatures, how long before even on-campus health services administered by outside vendors like Moscow Health are chilled into compliance? At state schools especially.

If we want fewer unplanned pregnancies, it seems to me common sense that we'd want more contraception in the hands of the people who need it, not less.